C224 Flashed to E model cant printing more than 1 photo in duplex mode

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  • Jadel Labradoodle251
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    • Nov 2022
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    #16
    Re: C224 Flashed to E model cant printing more than 1 photo in duplex mode

    Originally posted by tsbservice
    Solenoid is opposite side of gears in the machine.
    So in here then?, is this not the one for detecting paper from the bypass tray ?
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    • tsbservice
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      #17
      Re: C224 Flashed to E model cant printing more than 1 photo in duplex mode

      Originally posted by Jadel Labradoodle251
      So in here then?, is this not the one for detecting paper from the bypass tray ?
      No, this is clutch not solenoid. Solenoid is in front of section you removed.
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      • emujo2
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        #18
        Re: C224 Flashed to E model cant printing more than 1 photo in duplex mode

        I think you need to look at the SM and see what the paper path difference is between 3 and 4 2 sided sheets..Something the path used seems to be fubar..Not sure how the lack or Prescence of the FS 533 makes a diff. E

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        • Jadel Labradoodle251
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          • Nov 2022
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          #19
          Re: C224 Flashed to E model cant printing more than 1 photo in duplex mode

          Originally posted by tsbservice
          No, this is clutch not solenoid. Solenoid is in front of section you removed.
          I think we both were mistaken, the exit area is in the upper side of the machine, here there is a solenoid as indicated per the service manual I found which I attached below
          The part which I took out is at the bottom of the machine which takes the paper from the paper tray, the metal bracket cutouts don't even match with the ones posted here before so I definitely took out the wrong part
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          • Jadel Labradoodle251
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            #20
            Re: C224 Flashed to E model cant printing more than 1 photo in duplex mode

            Originally posted by Jadel Labradoodle251
            Alright will try using a few stickers of some sort, is that solenoid located on the door or inside the machine towards the left? While I'm there I will try to make the two latches close properly, there's about 5mm of space since it ain't latching with the upper one at all, the door I will have to have a look at aswell, similar problem with the upper latch again close the door and push on the upper part to actually close it fully. In the worse case scenario I will give the MJ Flood people a call
            Alright got it out, I don't have any panel stickers though, what could I stick on there? one of those sponge items for putting under the feet of chairs or something thinner?
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            • Synthohol
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              #21
              Re: C224 Flashed to E model cant printing more than 1 photo in duplex mode

              OMFG why would you take it off the frame?
              just pop a thick sticker on the frame in front of the pintle.
              good luck remounting that in the right place again.
              sorry, just nobody said remove solenoid.
              We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
              The medication helps though...

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              • Jadel Labradoodle251
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                #22
                Re: C224 Flashed to E model cant printing more than 1 photo in duplex mode

                Originally posted by Synthohol
                OMFG why would you take it off the frame?
                just pop a thick sticker on the frame in front of the pintle.
                good luck remounting that in the right place again.
                sorry, just nobody said remove solenoid.
                So I didn't have to take it out? 😂
                My bad, putting it back wont be too hard since I did it before with an older model already for cleaning. So a thicker sticker will solve the problem most likely ? , well I hope it will 😁

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                • Synthohol
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                  #23
                  Re: C224 Flashed to E model cant printing more than 1 photo in duplex mode

                  yeah, didnt mean to sound angry, just once the adjustment is messed with its a pain unless it goes back exactly (like a CCD assy)
                  in my pic, the yellow area is where to put a sticker on the frame or something thick as say 5 sheets of paper just thick enough to partially engage the pintle about 5 sheets of paper depth.
                  We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                  The medication helps though...

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                  • Jadel Labradoodle251
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                    #24
                    Re: C224 Flashed to E model cant printing more than 1 photo in duplex mode

                    Originally posted by Synthohol
                    yeah, didnt mean to sound angry, just once the adjustment is messed with its a pain unless it goes back exactly (like a CCD assy)
                    in my pic, the yellow area is where to put a sticker on the frame or something thick as say 5 sheets of paper just thick enough to partially engage the pintle about 5 sheets of paper depth.
                    Got 4 pieces of electrical tape in that area, hope this works lol20221212_201130.jpg

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                    • Synthohol
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                      #25
                      Re: C224 Flashed to E model cant printing more than 1 photo in duplex mode

                      that should work for a bit but elec tape over time will permanently dent and the pintle will be "overextended" again.
                      ask me how i know!
                      3 machines in a school did it and all i could think of was elec tape too.
                      6 weeks later i started using the panel stickers. they are much harder.

                      good luck though!
                      also since the exit unit was out i should have told you to clean the one way bearing gear and scuff the shaft & clean with alcohol.
                      We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                      The medication helps though...

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                      • Jadel Labradoodle251
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                        • Nov 2022
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                        #26
                        Re: C224 Flashed to E model cant printing more than 1 photo in duplex mode

                        Originally posted by Synthohol
                        that should work for a bit but elec tape over time will permanently dent and the pintle will be "overextended" again.
                        ask me how i know!
                        3 machines in a school did it and all i could think of was elec tape too.
                        6 weeks later i started using the panel stickers. they are much harder.

                        good luck though!
                        also since the exit unit was out i should have told you to clean the one way bearing gear and scuff the shaft & clean with alcohol.
                        I used 4 straps of electric tape and no luck, 32 05 still and same situation, prints from both sides the first one, second comes in one side and gets jammed like in the very first picture

                        Should I continue to keep adding tape? or give something 3lse a try ?

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                        • Synthohol
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                          #27
                          Re: C224 Flashed to E model cant printing more than 1 photo in duplex mode

                          i would clean and scuff the one way gear on the opposite side of it, clean the bearing with alcohol and scuff the shaft lengthwise where the bearing rides with a scotch-brite or emery cloth/board.
                          We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                          The medication helps though...

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                          • Jadel Labradoodle251
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                            #28
                            Re: C224 Flashed to E model cant printing more than 1 photo in duplex mode

                            Originally posted by Synthohol
                            i would clean and scuff the one way gear on the opposite side of it, clean the bearing with alcohol and scuff the shaft lengthwise where the bearing rides with a scotch-brite or emery cloth/board.
                            Will do so, will try to clean the duplex sensor aswell, also found out the one of the screws that holds the plastic on the exterior has been stripped so someones been definitely trying to get into here

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