[Misc] DV310 starter - where to buy or equivalent DV # to use?

[mjunkaged]

Hey gang:

I have a need for DV310 for an old Bizhub 222. I can't find any because of its age; anyone have a bag they can sell me, or point me to an equivalent DV# that will work? I also need a PC drum but can order raw parts and rebuild the one they have. There is DV116 and DV411 available on ebay but not sure if they'd work.
Any help is appreciated, thanks!

[REGSIS]

Re: DV310 starter - where to buy or equivalent DV # to use?

What I will do when TN-211 became empty is to replace it with TN-217/TN-414 but before that I will empty dev unit and put DV-411. Also remove toner hopper and vacuum old toner. An old (empty) TN-211 bottle should be vaccumed and filled with TN-217/TN-414 toner.
Drum, charger and cleaning blade can be removed from DR-410 unit and put inside the old one.

Don't forget to propery initialize the developer and drum!

P.S. I haven't try this yet but it should work.

[Synthohol]

Re: DV310 starter - where to buy or equivalent DV # to use?

Generic Replacement for Konica Minolta 8938451 8938-451 DV-310 DV310 D – Ink Direct Corporation
Drum and Blade Kit Compatible with Konica Minolta bizhub 222 (P8980)

[mjunkaged]

Re: DV310 starter - where to buy or equivalent DV # to use?

What I will do when TN-211 became empty is to replace it with TN-217/TN-414 but before that I will empty dev unit and put DV-411. Also remove toner hopper and vacuum old toner. An old (empty) TN-211 bottle should be vaccumed and filled with TN-217/TN-414 toner.
Drum, charger and cleaning blade can be removed from DR-410 unit and put inside the old one.

Don't forget to propery initialize the developer and drum!

P.S. I haven't try this yet but it should work.

I'm told you can use DV414 and NOT have to start running different toner, vacuum out hopper, etc.

ALL you need to do is recalibrate developer setting to value of 90 and it will work after getting an error code performing normal calibrate sequence.

[mjunkaged]

Re: DV310 starter - where to buy or equivalent DV # to use?

Drum and Blade Kit Compatible with Konica Minolta bizhub 222 (P8980)

Dang, even the generic DV supplier is out of stock!

[allan]

Re: DV310 starter - where to buy or equivalent DV # to use?

DV-411 will work just fine. Even dev from a 654 will work....
Amazing what you will learn during a toner shortage.

[Synthohol]

Re: DV310 starter - where to buy or equivalent DV # to use?

Dang, even the generic DV supplier is out of stock!

sorry about that, i just looked at the box.
im happy others have alternate solutions for you.

[REGSIS]

Re: DV310 starter - where to buy or equivalent DV # to use?

I'm told you can use DV414 and NOT have to start running different toner, vacuum out hopper, etc.

ALL you need to do is recalibrate developer setting to value of 90 and it will work after getting an error code performing normal calibrate sequence.

You can, but you will probably get dirty background after a while (When old toner comes into dev unit).
If you intend to stick with TN211 then DV116 is maybe more compatible with dv310 than dv414. But you must check what is the exact amount in g/oz.
I wanna say that you will need more than 1 bag of DV116.

[mjunkaged]

Re: DV310 starter - where to buy or equivalent DV # to use?

DV-411 will work just fine. Even dev from a 654 will work....
Amazing what you will learn during a toner shortage.

Is it true I'd get an error and have to change a developer value? Which one?

[mjunkaged]

Re: DV310 starter - where to buy or equivalent DV # to use?

You can, but you will probably get dirty background after a while (When old toner comes into dev unit).
If you intend to stick with TN211 then DV116 is maybe more compatible with dv310 than dv414. But you must check what is the exact amount in g/oz.
I wanna say that you will need more than 1 bag of DV116.

Happy to report that both DV310 and DV116 are 200g bags, while the DV411 is a 300g bag. Maybe that's why my local source has to change developer parameter, if they're not holding back the extra 100grams?

Based on all this, I've decided to try a bag of DV116 with a compatible Biz 222 drum rebuild kit from PR. I got their last bag in stock, and ordered an extra one for the next time. I definitely want to stick with original toner since I have several bottles in stock of OEM.

[femaster]

Re: DV310 starter - where to buy or equivalent DV # to use?

What I will do when TN-211 became empty is to replace it with TN-217/TN-414 but before that I will empty dev unit and put DV-411. Also remove toner hopper and vacuum old toner. An old (empty) TN-211 bottle should be vaccumed and filled with TN-217/TN-414 toner.
Drum, charger and cleaning blade can be removed from DR-410 unit and put inside the old one.

Don't forget to propery initialize the developer and drum!

P.S. I haven't try this yet but it should work.

EDIT: Well, now that I've finished reading the rest of the comments, it seems that others have had success with the DV-411 when changing the ATDC down to 90. I swear we tried going up and down the scale, end to end,with no success. We might have to try that again down the road and just see if perhaps we didn't. It was a while ago now, so perhaps my memory is failing a bit...

We've tried the DV-411 on 2 separate occasions in a BH-200/250/250 style machine, which is essentially the same as the BH-222, and it did not work at all. Initialized (F8) and reset all counts as normal and it was just constant C2557 errors. We even attempted to adjust the the ATDC setting manually and nothing we did would make the error go away. We ended up using a salvaged development units and developer that had a low page count to get both of the machines back up and running.

You are correct about swapping out the parts from the DR-411 and using them in the DR-310 housing, with one stipulation. The charge assemblies are slightly different between the 2 drum units, so you have to do 1 of 2 things to the charge assembly.

Either:
1) Swap the grid and charge saw tooth from the DR-411 into the charge housing of the DR-310.
Or the easier option:
2) Trim off the part of the black mylar that sticks out on the erase lamp side (opposite the grid).

The charge unit in the DR-310 doesn't have the excess mylar that the DR-411 does. I think it's because the 3-series machines that use the DR-411 use LED erase lamps, which have a more focused output, as opposed to the standard bulbs used in the 200/250/350/222/282/362 machines. If you do not trim off the excess mylar, it blocks too much of the light from the standard erase lamps and results in really ugly, dirty output.

[mjunkaged]

Re: DV310 starter - where to buy or equivalent DV # to use?

[QUOTE=femaster;2441395]EDIT: Well, now that I've finished reading the rest of the comments, it seems that others have had success with the DV-411 when changing the ATDC down to 90. I swear we tried going up and down the scale, end to end,with no success. We might have to try that again down the road and just see if perhaps we didn't. It was a while ago now, so perhaps my memory is failing a bit...

We've tried the DV-411 on 2 separate occasions in a BH-200/250/250 style machine, which is essentially the same as the BH-222, and it did not work at all. Initialized (F8) and reset all counts as normal and it was just constant C2557 errors. We even attempted to adjust the the ATDC setting manually and nothing we did would make the error go away. We ended up using a salvaged development units and developer that had a low page count to get both of the machines back up and running.

Just to be clear, I was told it works 3rd hand by owner of a larger local co. I also heard he has to unplug machine with door open (when it fails I guess?) and then power back up, get F8 displayed on screen so he can run it before check sequence causes an abort code. Again, heard that FOURTH hand from his former tech. Also unless my research is wrong, 310 and 116 are both 200g but 411 is 300g bag!

OOPS! Turns out I was wrong about weight, DV310 is 300g (I swear I saw a pic that showed 200g) so I will need an extra 1/3 bag of DV116. And, of course my 2nd bag is back-ordered.

[allan]

Re: DV310 starter - where to buy or equivalent DV # to use?

On these I always make sure to block the toner feed into the dev tank until I got the ATDC to take without giving 255x errors . There is a good reason you need to keep the side door open until you are ready to run F8. It could load additional toner before you get a change to run the initialization...

If its overtoner already its a #itch to get right.

I have not seen these oldies around for a while now.

[Kapral]

Re: DV310 starter - where to buy or equivalent DV # to use?

AFAIK DV411 should work in these machines. I have to ask my buddy tho to be certain.

[mjunkaged]

Re: DV310 starter - where to buy or equivalent DV # to use?

AFAIK DV411 should work in these machines. I have to ask my buddy tho to be certain.

Scroll above and you won't have to, it sort of works, one says should change out entire toner supply with matching toner, my guy says change a parameter to value 90 to avoid error codes. I want to stick with original toner so want to find the exact DV310 or a close replacement.