C1060L About help

[matsan_offset@yahoo.com]

Hello masters.
I'm thinking of buying a used C1060L. The machine had made 900,000 prints and the seller said that 1 set of drums and developers needed to be replaced. Are these models good? Do they have chronic malfunctions? Is it a problematic model? Would you recommend me to buy it? I look forward to your help and suggestions, thank you.🙏🙏🙏

[blackcat4866]

Re: C1060L About help

It's a good machine, just obsolete. This family of machines hasn't changed that much from the bizhub PRESS C6000, C1060, C2060, C3060, and C4060.

The "L" machines are the baby of the group. Limited functions. They do not accept the big paper decks. They use different supplies from the rest of the family. They do not accept the heaviest media. They do not have the decurl functions.

Were it me, I'd look for a generation or two newer, and not the"L" machine. 900K is not a very high count for this machine, but if you really need a production machine this is the low end device. =^..^=

[Toxic]

Re: C1060L About help

You should consider buying after checking price for drums and developers.
In my area it is very expensive parts and not worth invest so much money in that machine.
I think price for drums and developers is arround 5000$.
And there is also fuser and transfer belt to check.
I have seen lot of customers who buy new machine, took out soul of them, spent minimal on maintenance and try to sold them at arround 500k total counter when all parts is in bad condition and must be replaced.

[wjurls]

Re: C1060L About help

At 900K and assuming nothing had to be changed out early, it will be due for all developing units and developers in just 100k. This can be quite costly. You are almost better off finding a machine with 1.3 million or so clicks where these dev units have likely already been replaced.

[matsan_offset@yahoo.com]

Re: C1060L About help

Hello Masters.
I bought the KM C1060L machine. It gave a few c-errors but I fixed it.
There is an error that I could not solve.
Machine Konica Minolta C1060L + Fiery IC415
Transactions I took;
I changed the drums and it didn't work.
Corona, I changed places, it didn't happen.
The rollers under the transfer belt were cleaned and replaced, but it did not work.
There is no damage to the transfer belt, but I still ordered a new one.
I noticed that the problem occurs before the fuser enters the oven.
The interesting thing is that it doesn't always appear in the same place.
It appears in different places. It does not appear in the first edition.
It starts to appear after 3-5 pieces and appears in random places. It occurs in every color, but it occurs more in Magenta.
Thanks for your help.

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[blackcat4866]

Re: C1060L About help

I suspect that one of the components in the primary charge is beyond desired yield, and voltages adjusted over-high to compensate. The pattern does not re-appear identically, but does look like high voltage arcing. I would suspect something conductive contaminating one of the developing units. Second choice, I would replace all primary charge units and do a color calibration.

You seem to have already replaced the primary transfer rollers. If it were the belt, the pattern would appear reliably on every A3 size image. If it were the second transfer roller arcing, you would get multiple lightening bolts on an A3 sized images.

What is the current count on the developing units and developer? =^..^=

[matsan_offset@yahoo.com]

Re: C1060L About help

I suspect that one of the components in the primary charge is beyond desired yield, and voltages adjusted over-high to compensate. The pattern does not re-appear identically, but does look like high voltage arcing. I would suspect something conductive contaminating one of the developing units. Second choice, I would replace all primary charge units and do a color calibration.

You seem to have already replaced the primary transfer rollers. If it were the belt, the pattern would appear reliably on every A3 size image. If it were the second transfer roller arcing, you would get multiple lightening bolts on an A3 sized images.

What is the current count on the developing units and developer? =^..^=

Thanks

I don't know when the developers changed. I got it this way. The counters are like this. Sometimes there is no problem with Cyan Yellow and black colors, but usually there is a problem with magenta colors. But sometimes problems occur in every color.
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[matsan_offset@yahoo.com]

Re: C1060L About help

Hello,
I have few questions to ask you.
1. Did you print the CMYK each on A3 paper? If yes, how many times did it appear on each color? If no, then print on A3 to check how times it appears on each color
2. You mentioned that you already replaced the transfer belt.......what is the quality of the transfer belt?
I asked No.2 question above because I've had this same issue (same error pattern) after installing a second-grade China transfer belt on a C1070.

Hello,

I write primarily using translation. There may be a wrong translation.


1- I used SRA3 Paper in Test Outputs. Test pattern 53. density 125
Sometimes 2 but usually many. What's interesting is that it doesn't just come in black.


2- I did not change the transfer belt. But I ordered from China. It hasn't arrived yet.
(It may have changed previous owners. I will do some research.)
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[blackcat4866]

Re: C1060L About help

The cyan and magenta developing units are at 185% of life. The first thing that I would do is replace the magenta developing unit and magenta developer, then do color calibrations. If the primary charge grids are rusty, I'd replace primary charge units too. =^..^=

[matsan_offset@yahoo.com]

Re: C1060L About help


Thanks
I just saw your message. I'm waiting for the new belt. I will write the results when they arrive.

[matsan_offset@yahoo.com]

Re: C1060L About help

Ok.
Please do not stress yourself over this issue. I can tell you authoritatively that the problem is from the transfer belt. This is a problem I have solved several times. Enjoy!

Hello my friend.
After a long wait, the parts I ordered arrived.
But there was no transfer belt inside
I noticed that the transfer belt of my other machine (KM C6500) is the same. And to try it,
I installed the c6500 transfer belt on the c1060 machine.
As you said, the problem is solved.

Thank you very much for your help.