After working on copiers for25 years. I have a question for all repair people

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  • bill G
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    • Oct 2023
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    [Misc] After working on copiers for25 years. I have a question for all repair people

    started working on copiers in 1975 for ROYAL At that time I worked on the Wet type copiers for 2 years, dry type for the next next 20 years. For Konica Minolta, Sharp. My question is do any one know any copier repair people who later in life developed NEUROPATHY problems. I often wonder if the liquid Kerosene based toner or the daily contact with the black powered toner could have caused my problem. Starting in 65 year. Any of you worked on the old liquid Savin machine in 1976. please let me know billme868@yahoo.com
  • allan
    RTFM!!

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    • Apr 2010
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    Re: After working on copiers for25 years. I have a question for all repair people

    I have never trusted the use of titanium dioxide in toner.

    Titanium dioxide in our everyday life; is it safe? - PMC
    Whatever

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    • blackcat4866
      Master Of The Obvious

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      • Jul 2007
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      Re: After working on copiers for25 years. I have a question for all repair people

      I know plenty of techs who's knees are shot from kneeling in front of copiers.

      Back in the day when trichlorethylene was the standard cleaner for almost anything, we would get spontaneous nosebleeds and cracked hands, from dried out nasal passages & hands. If you use enough of it you'll get granulomas (your body isolates small pockets of trichlorethylene into something like capsules). Eventually these capsules surface on the back of your hands. Weird, huh? It was a couple of years before that diminished.

      I'd imagine that sniffing toner isn't a great thing, but I haven't heard of any adverse consequences to techs in 30+ years (except second hand stories of employees at toner factories). Same with exposure to Selenium Tellurium & ASi drum coatings. Only employees at the drum factories seemed to be affected. And as far as I know, those drum coatings have gone obsolete.


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      Nutritional or vitamin imbalances, alcoholism, and exposure to toxins can damage nerves and cause neuropathy. Vitamin B12 deficiency and excess vitamin B6 are the best-known vitamin-related causes. Several medications have been shown to occasionally cause neuropathy.

      Neuropathy can be caused by exposure to heavy metals, i.e.: lead or mercury.

      Peripheral neuropathies can have a wide variety of etiologies, including but not limited to, metabolic, nutritional, infectious, and autoimmune. These causes

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      • Thalidomide.


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      • BillyCarpenter
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        Re: After working on copiers for25 years. I have a question for all repair people

        In my younger days, I worked around much more dangerous chemicals than one would encounter working on copiers. I used to be a sandblaster and painter. I remember mixing industrial zinc paint and using MEK (Methyl ethyl ketone) thinner. You can literally wipe paint off of metal with MEK. Most of the stuff we were using, we didn't know what it was or the harmful effects. Most of the time we wore respirators but not always when we were mixing it.

        When I started working on copiers, I remember thinking this was a piece of cake.
        Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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        • KenB
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          • Dec 2007
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          • allan
            RTFM!!

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            • Apr 2010
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            Re: After working on copiers for25 years. I have a question for all repair people

            Always wondered about paper dust. I would imagine that formaldehyde would be needed in the process of bonding paper fiber somewhere.
            Like mentioned dry cleaning solution aka electronic cleaner can not be good for you. Yea over time these things can get to you. Like my Tinnitus I got from not wearing ear protection in a factory I used to work in.


            Is Paper Dust Potentially Harmful? - Scientific American
            Whatever

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            • copyman
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              • Sep 2005
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              Re: After working on copiers for25 years. I have a question for all repair people

              Originally posted by allan
              Always wondered about paper dust. I would imagine that formaldehyde would be needed in the process of bonding paper fiber somewhere.
              Like mentioned dry cleaning solution aka electronic cleaner can not be good for you. Yea over time these things can get to you. Like my Tinnitus I got from not wearing ear protection in a factory I used to work in.


              Is Paper Dust Potentially Harmful? - Scientific American
              I think the chemicals used to clean copiers back in the day did more harm then toner. Fedron, Pikle drum polish, etc, etc. Although I remember reading a Xerox report many years ago about toner being harmful to breath. Think the toner now a days is different and not as bad. But who really knows....

              And like someone else posted the drums back in those days were really bad, Selenium drum had arsenic & CDS drum had cadium sulfide both deadly and now banned!

              Next time a customer asks why your service fee is so expensive remind them not only you have to keep up with tech training on new models but also the toxic things involved with servicing office equipment!

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              • emujo2
                Service Manager

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                • Mar 2017
                • 1580

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                Re: After working on copiers for25 years. I have a question for all repair people

                remember selenium drums???I'm surprised my kids don't have 3 arms...

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