Bizhub 451 P-14 Error

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  • Toefur
    Service Director
    • May 2009
    • 28

    #1

    Bizhub 451 P-14 Error

    Ive tried just about everything...aside from replacing the print heads. Any suggestions before I get manufacturer support?
  • 8050
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • Feb 2009
    • 88

    #2
    P-14 means there is a skew problem. My experience is that it mostly deals with the black IU. 1st pull out the black IU and reseat it. But before locking the black IU hold it in place with your hand then lock it. Sometimes it doesn't sit right. The other alternative is if it doesn't work try replacing the black IU.

    PS - as a precaution reseat all IU's

    Hope this helps!

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    • Toefur
      Service Director
      • May 2009
      • 28

      #3
      Thanks 8050. I replaced the black I/U already and have reseated all I/U's as well. I looked on Minolta's SSD site for the P14. Nothing there except what you said...replace the I/U.

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      • DCPS
        Trusted Tech

        100+ Posts
        • Mar 2008
        • 116

        #4
        There is a special firmware from KM for this problem. PRCB is the only part that has to be flashed with this special firmware (GC1-22).

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        • emujo
          Field Supervisor

          2,500+ Posts
          • Jun 2009
          • 3009

          #5
          had this issue a few weeks ago, tried I/U replacement, no help, installed special f/w, no help. Test mode charts showed black leading in one direction, lagging in other direction. Wound up replacing the PH to resolve this. I am assuming the poster ment 451C. EMujo
          If you don't see your question answered in the forum, please don't think it's OK to PM me for a personal reply...I do not give out firmware and/or manuals.

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          • Albonline
            Service Manager

            1,000+ Posts
            • Sep 2008
            • 1131

            #6
            replace print head unit! have seen ph unit cause maney weird nonlogoical problems on this family of mfps.

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            • Toefur
              Service Director
              • May 2009
              • 28

              #7
              alright...PH it is...just another lovely day being a KM tech...(sigh)

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              • buster68
                Trusted Tech

                100+ Posts
                • Nov 2008
                • 181

                #8
                Don't waste your money and time on replacing the ph units. Follow this procedure step by step and I guarantee you the P-14 will go away, I've done this on atleast 30 machines and have had success with each one.

                1. Do "Skew Adjustment Reset" then run "Initialize+Image Stabilization"
                2. Turn off copier.
                3. Apply firmware GC1-22 for the Printer control. MFP firmware must be at atleast R5.
                4 Do "Skew Adjustment Reset" then run "Initialize+Image Stabilization" again.
                5. Turn off and on the copier.
                6. Run Gradation for all three modes and then run Stabilizer again.

                This has been a fix for me 100% of the time with P-14 codes.

                For reference look at TAD # TAUS0703835EN08 in the KM Knowledgebase.

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                • Having a ball
                  Technician
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 17

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Toefur
                  Ive tried just about everything...aside from replacing the print heads. Any suggestions before I get manufacturer support?
                  this issue could be firmware depending on the firmware you have at the moment also could be transfer belt check with KM before wasting money.

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                  • habik
                    Service Manager

                    Site Contributor
                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 2013

                    #10
                    Re: Bizhub 451 P-14 Error

                    Hi I am having constant issue with C650 (+650) right this moment and would appreciate if anyone can send me a link to the GC1-22 special firmware on the Konica site...

                    Many Thanks

                    I looked through 1.5 hrs now and could not find it.
                    .OK Google! ... will I need Berrocca this morning?
                    Firmwares HERE

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                    • medmouncef
                      Technician
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 10

                      #11
                      Re: Bizhub 451 P-14 Error

                      Hi

                      Me too, I am interested in the first degree. Please provide us the link or send it to us.

                      Greetings


                      Originally posted by habik
                      Hi I am having constant issue with C650 (+650) right this moment and would appreciate if anyone can send me a link to the GC1-22 special firmware on the Konica site...

                      Many Thanks

                      I looked through 1.5 hrs now and could not find it.

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                      • medmouncef
                        Technician
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 10

                        #12
                        Re: Bizhub 451 P-14 Error

                        Originally posted by habik
                        Hi I am having constant issue with C650 (+650) right this moment and would appreciate if anyone can send me a link to the GC1-22 special firmware on the Konica site...

                        Many Thanks

                        I looked through 1.5 hrs now and could not find it.

                        Look here : http://onyxftp.mykonicaminolta.com/D...&productid=952

                        For my part, I search without result the service manual for KM c451. If ever, you have it or know where I can find it, I don't to thank you not enough.

                        Greetings

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                        • habik
                          Service Manager

                          Site Contributor
                          1,000+ Posts
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 2013

                          #13
                          Re: Bizhub 451 P-14 Error

                          My Fix was shifting C and M laser to value 300 manualy.

                          Then all the other adjustments stabiliser reset and full gradation adjust.



                          "Quite a mile away from initial settings but it worked for me."
                          .OK Google! ... will I need Berrocca this morning?
                          Firmwares HERE

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                          • medmouncef
                            Technician
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 10

                            #14
                            Re: Bizhub 451 P-14 Error

                            Originally posted by buster68
                            Don't waste your money and time on replacing the ph units. Follow this procedure step by step and I guarantee you the P-14 will go away, I've done this on atleast 30 machines and have had success with each one.

                            1. Do "Skew Adjustment Reset" then run "Initialize+Image Stabilization"
                            2. Turn off copier.
                            3. Apply firmware GC1-22 for the Printer control. MFP firmware must be at atleast R5.
                            4 Do "Skew Adjustment Reset" then run "Initialize+Image Stabilization" again.
                            5. Turn off and on the copier.
                            6. Run Gradation for all three modes and then run Stabilizer again.

                            This has been a fix for me 100% of the time with P-14 codes.

                            For reference look at TAD # TAUS0703835EN08 in the KM Knowledgebase.

                            Hello

                            I followed this procedure to the letter but it did not work.

                            Greetings

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                            • medmouncef
                              Technician
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 10

                              #15
                              Re: Bizhub 451 P-14 Error

                              Originally posted by habik
                              My Fix was shifting C and M laser to value 300 manualy.

                              Then all the other adjustments stabiliser reset and full gradation adjust.



                              "Quite a mile away from initial settings but it worked for me."
                              Hello


                              Can you tell me where exactly did you introduce these values? I can not find.


                              Thank you very much

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