C6500 with Fiery IC-408 embedded Print Controller

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  • drodas78
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • Jun 2008
    • 91

    #16
    Originally posted by stathistec
    you must calibrate the machine with es-1000
    I don't have ES-1000 here but since I'm going to buy another C6500 I want to invest in it. I think is a good investment. Can you advice an on-line store to buy it? Do I need to buy the UV Filter or the Non-UV Filter?

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    • stathistec
      Technician
      • Nov 2008
      • 17

      #17
      no i don't know any on line that you can buy an ES-1000. look at the EFI web site. About Non-UV and UV filter. if you print at too white paper (like mondi) you must have uv filter if you don't buy the other one. my opinion is that the uv filter is better

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      • Mr Spock
        Vulcan Inventor of Death

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        • Aug 2006
        • 2064

        #18
        If you are calibrating the fiery via the copy glass then you need the kodak calibration strip (gray scale). with out it you will get this error.
        And Star Trek was just a tv show...yeah right!

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        • TheOwl
          Service Manager

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          • Nov 2008
          • 1732

          #19
          When you buy another C6500, if you buys it from a dealer, then you should get a ES-1000 thrown in with the machine.
          Please don't ask me for firmware or service manuals as refusal often offends.

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          • RRodgers
            Service Manager

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            • Jun 2009
            • 1947

            #20
            Originally posted by TheOwl
            When you buy another C6500, if you buys it from a dealer, then you should get a ES-1000 thrown in with the machine.
            Yeah, make the salesman throw one in to sweeten the deal. Or Ebay maybe. I dunno if EFI will sell them directly too ya. if you do go the Ebay route, be sure to GET THE SOFTWARE with it.
            Color is not 4 times harder... it's 65,000 times harder. They call it "TECH MODE" for a reason. I have manual's and firmware for ya, course... you are going to have to earn it.

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            • drodas78
              Technician

              50+ Posts
              • Jun 2008
              • 91

              #21
              Originally posted by RRodgers
              Make sure the optics are CLEAN!! I've had this once and turned out to be dirty optics.
              You were right! It was dirty optics. The machine is calibrated now. Tnx.

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              • drodas78
                Technician

                50+ Posts
                • Jun 2008
                • 91

                #22
                Hi. After all I'm having some random errors with the fiery. For example sometime the controller button dissapears from the touch panel on the machine. And I need to restart the fiery to be able to work again. So I want to change the HDD for a new one. I want to know if I can buy a SATA HDD of any capacity and change the HDD on the fiery or if I need to buy an HDD with special specs. Also I want to know where can I obtain a copy of the V2 Fiery Software DVD.

                Regards.

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                • TheOwl
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                  • Nov 2008
                  • 1732

                  #23
                  Any size drive should do. If you have an image of the system software, that can sometimes bring the total size of your HDD down (because it will use only the partitioned space that was available), but installing the system software as per normal shouldn't have any issues.
                  Please don't ask me for firmware or service manuals as refusal often offends.

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                  • ni311
                    Senior Tech

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                    500+ Posts
                    • May 2008
                    • 658

                    #24
                    First, you should have the original DVD in the box with the Fiery. Also, you should have the Kodak grey and color scale in the same box.
                    Second, ES-1000 it is not a must, you can calibrate your Fiery with the X-Rite DTP32 or with the scanner. The only machine where you must have ES1000 is C65HC.
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                    • drodas78
                      Technician

                      50+ Posts
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 91

                      #25
                      I have the original DVD but it is version 1 software. I want to know if there's big difference between V1 and V2 of the fiery software and where can I obtain the V2 if the update is worth of it. Thanks.

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                      • DUKEY
                        Technician

                        50+ Posts
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 57

                        #26
                        Hey mr rodas! how are ya? still working on your 6500? you haven't asked for help in a long time! you forget about me?

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                        • drodas78
                          Technician

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                          • Jun 2008
                          • 91

                          #27
                          Hi Dukey! Everything is doing well. I only have minor issues if you can help me with the V2 DVD software for the fiery IC-408 I will appreciate it. Also right now I only found Windows 7 PCL driver for fiery IC-408 do you know if there's a PS driver for Windows 7?

                          Regards.

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                          • DUKEY
                            Technician

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                            • Sep 2008
                            • 57

                            #28
                            Mr D. the post script driver is only available for Windows Vista at the moment! in time maybe ps driver will come! I suggest if you need the ps i would forma hardrive and install vista if you have it! if not ur stuck with the pcl driver! as far as the software i think you need to bring the firmware to ver 15 before using v2 dvd! but i will look into it for ya!

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                            • sbillis
                              Technician

                              50+ Posts
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 95

                              #29
                              Originally posted by ni311
                              First, you should have the original DVD in the box with the Fiery. Also, you should have the Kodak grey and color scale in the same box.
                              Second, ES-1000 it is not a must, you can calibrate your Fiery with the X-Rite DTP32 or with the scanner. The only machine where you must have ES1000 is C65HC.
                              So, if 65hc was not a Printer and had scanner on it and you had also Kodak gray and color scale for 65hc you want need es-1000 or any other spectrometer, right
                              What about C650xP wich are without scanner?

                              ES-1000 or any other spectrophotometer I believe is a must for those who color and consistent color output is a must. ES-1000 maybe not a must for those who make small volume print runs.

                              I believe that calibration procedure must be a daily procedure and to be repeated during a day before taking large print runs, this is for who want to call them self professionals.

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                              • Onetouch
                                Technician

                                50+ Posts
                                • May 2008
                                • 62

                                #30
                                Re: C6500 with Fiery IC-408 embedded Print Controller

                                Hi There,
                                I also have C500 with S300 Fiery I can print the "Colorcal Measurement Page" and when I replaced measurement page with "Kodak Gray Scale" on platen glass as I used to do before and I tried to calibrate it says "Measurement Page is not Detected" I cleaned the optic still no luck. By the way The fiery calibrate with another C500 and it's not the cable either. And as you mentioned above about USER AUTHENTICATION or COPY TRACK on the machine. I'm not sure what you mean exactly by those can you please give me more information or explain me how to do these steps. I would greatly appreciated any help as I'm totally dependent your given information now,
                                Thanks in advance.

                                Oz

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