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  • tekkie
    Trusted Tech

    100+ Posts
    • Mar 2011
    • 111

    #1

    [Jamming] Kon.Minolta Bizhub C280

    I HAVE A BIZHUB C280 that has an ongoing problem I feed A3 from the second cassette and every so often the paper turns over at the lead edge rear corner about 2 inch fold when it happens you can hear a paper crinkling noise and the paper does exit the machine it doesnt jam. This doesnt happen on A4 out of the top cassette.I have fitted the reg guide mod for turning corners over and the plastic guide and mylar have been changed in the paper transport section just after pick up.The paper seems to get beyond the reg area before the crinkling noise is heard seems to be in the area between reg and fuser entrance.
    Any help appreciated
  • EarthKmTech
    Step aside, noob

    1,000+ Posts
    • May 2009
    • 2139

    #2
    Re: Kon.Minolta Bizhub C280

    I know you say its after registration, but I've seen lots of these machines fold the corner of papers over at paper pickup because the paper stack does not sit level. Look in the side of the machine and see if the stack is lower at the rear when in the lifted state, if so "reforming" of the metal lift plate usually fixes this.

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    • JustManuals
      Field Supervisor

      5,000+ Posts
      • Jan 2006
      • 9838

      #3
      Re: Kon.Minolta Bizhub C280

      This Parts & Service Manual can now be purchased for $12.77 and downloaded immediately after payment from:


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      Paul@justmanuals.com

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      • blackcat4866
        Master Of The Obvious

        Site Contributor
        10,000+ Posts
        • Jul 2007
        • 22999

        #4
        Re: Kon.Minolta Bizhub C280

        I've had this same flipped corners only from tray #3. Same leading edge rear, flipped back before imaging. No jams resulting.

        I found two verifiable causes.
        1) The transfer assembly came unsnapped at the rear.
        2) A few weeks later I had a verifiable moist paper problem. 10 of 100 flipped on the problem paper. 0 of 500 flipped on new fresh paper.

        =^..^=
        If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
        1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
        2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
        3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
        4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
        5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

        blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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        • RRodgers
          Service Manager

          1,000+ Posts
          • Jun 2009
          • 1947

          #5
          Re: Kon.Minolta Bizhub C280

          Originally posted by EarthKmTech
          I know you say its after registration, but I've seen lots of these machines fold the corner of papers over at paper pickup because the paper stack does not sit level. Look in the side of the machine and see if the stack is lower at the rear when in the lifted state, if so "reforming" of the metal lift plate usually fixes this.
          Yeah, I'm really starting to like this guy!!
          Color is not 4 times harder... it's 65,000 times harder. They call it "TECH MODE" for a reason. I have manual's and firmware for ya, course... you are going to have to earn it.

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          • dallas
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            100+ Posts
            • Jun 2008
            • 115

            #6
            Re: Kon.Minolta Bizhub C280

            If I understand you right, maybe this countermeasure helps.
            A piece of DF cleaning pad, insulation tape or something can be used to enlarge the space.
            Dog Ear C360.jpg

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            • blackcat4866
              Master Of The Obvious

              Site Contributor
              10,000+ Posts
              • Jul 2007
              • 22999

              #7
              Re: Kon.Minolta Bizhub C280

              Originally posted by dallas
              If I understand you right, maybe this countermeasure helps.
              A piece of DF cleaning pad, insulation tape or something can be used to enlarge the space.
              [ATTACH=CONFIG]20012[/ATTACH]
              Thanks Dallas. This helped on the call-back.
              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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              • EarthKmTech
                Step aside, noob

                1,000+ Posts
                • May 2009
                • 2139

                #8
                Re: Kon.Minolta Bizhub C280

                wow, could it really be this simple ?

                I'm going to give this a go myself next time. I have quite a number of machines doing this, from all trays.

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                • blackcat4866
                  Master Of The Obvious

                  Site Contributor
                  10,000+ Posts
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 22999

                  #9
                  Re: Kon.Minolta Bizhub C280

                  From new setups, I save all those replacement control panel stickers in French, Chinese, Hebrew ... whatever. It's nice heavy plastic and really sticky, and you'll always have a lifetime supply of them. Two layers = 1mm. =^..^=
                  If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                  1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                  2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                  3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                  4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                  5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                  blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                  • lanierboy
                    Trusted Tech

                    100+ Posts
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 149

                    #10
                    Re: Kon.Minolta Bizhub C280

                    Originally posted by tekkie
                    I HAVE A BIZHUB C280 that has an ongoing problem I feed A3 from the second cassette and every so often the paper turns over at the lead edge rear corner about 2 inch fold when it happens you can hear a paper crinkling noise and the paper does exit the machine it doesnt jam. This doesnt happen on A4 out of the top cassette.I have fitted the reg guide mod for turning corners over and the plastic guide and mylar have been changed in the paper transport section just after pick up.The paper seems to get beyond the reg area before the crinkling noise is heard seems to be in the area between reg and fuser entrance.
                    Any help appreciated

                    MF360 series visual guide for dog eared copies.pdfd-ColorMF360Series_paper folding at corner (2).pdf

                    Try the attached olivetti bulletins (same as KM model) i have had this problem many times

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                    • cayyell
                      Technician

                      Site Contributor
                      50+ Posts
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 82

                      #11
                      Re: Kon.Minolta Bizhub C280

                      Originally posted by lanierboy
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                      Try the attached olivetti bulletins (same as KM model) i have had this problem many times
                      Originally posted by blackcat4866
                      Thanks Dallas. This helped on the call-back.
                      Originally posted by blackcat4866
                      From new setups, I save all those replacement control panel stickers in French, Chinese, Hebrew ... whatever. It's nice heavy plastic and really sticky, and you'll always have a lifetime supply of them. Two layers = 1mm. =^..^=

                      Thx mate, going to try these tml see if it helps. yeah

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                      • Hansoon
                        Field Supervisor

                        Site Contributor
                        2,500+ Posts
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 3374

                        #12
                        Re: Kon.Minolta Bizhub C280

                        From new setups, I save all those replacement control panel stickers in French, Chinese, Hebrew ... whatever. It's nice heavy plastic and really sticky, and you'll always have a lifetime supply of them. Two layers = 1mm. =^..^=
                        I'm doing this since years, since the EP-Series times. I still have some of the nice soft stickers for the EP-5400 for special purposes. The best where those of the EP-1080 series. Really fat and stiff. Always believed I'm a little weird looking at that stack of lovely plastic sheets on the shelve in our warehouse but they are really convenient and really beautiful.

                        Hans
                        “Sent from my Intel 80286 using MS-DOS 2.0”

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                        • blackcat4866
                          Master Of The Obvious

                          Site Contributor
                          10,000+ Posts
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 22999

                          #13
                          Re: Kon.Minolta Bizhub C280

                          Originally posted by Hansoon
                          I'm doing this since years, since the EP-Series times. I still have some of the nice soft stickers for the EP-5400 for special purposes. The best where those of the EP-1080 series. Really fat and stiff. Always believed I'm a little weird looking at that stack of lovely plastic sheets on the shelve in our warehouse but they are really convenient and really beautiful.

                          Hans
                          ... and hard to read, for me anyway. With your additional language skills you can probably read a few more. =^..^=
                          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                          • shamnad abdullah
                            service engineer
                            • May 2015
                            • 24

                            #14
                            Re: Kon.Minolta Bizhub C280

                            [QUOTE=dallas;349121]If I understand you right, maybe this countermeasure helps.
                            A piece of DF cleaning pad, insulation tape or something can be used to enlarge the space.
                            Dog Ear C360.jpg
                            Thank you dallas...it really works

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