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  • cokwax
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • May 2013
    • 50

    #1

    [Dead] C451 not booting

    I used my machine and turned it off normally. When I power on later, the hour glass displays, then the KM logo plus start button flashing orange and stays there. The machine stays at that point forever.
    I have tried turning off, disconnecting power, reconnecting, turn on, all in vain.
    I even tried powering on with utility button pressed; "trouble reset" appears after the KM logo but the touch screen stops responding so I cant touch "trouble reset."
    What else can I try? I have only printed five pages since I bought this used machine.
  • Zeldaman
    Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • Mar 2011
    • 946

    #2

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    • cokwax
      Technician

      50+ Posts
      • May 2013
      • 50

      #3
      Re: C451 not booting

      Thanks for the reply but Not quite sure how to reboot firmware.

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      • Zeldaman
        Senior Tech

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        • Mar 2011
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        #4

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        • cokwax
          Technician

          50+ Posts
          • May 2013
          • 50

          #5
          Re: C451 not booting

          No known qualified tecs in my country. Purchased from a quark!

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          • Synaux
            Service Manager

            Site Contributor
            1,000+ Posts
            • Mar 2012
            • 1224

            #6
            Re: C451 not booting

            It would still be best to find a tech, but if you want to give it a shot:

            You need to run the NVRAM recovery firmware...or you might have to replace the NVRAM and/or MFPB board.
            I recommend before you even attempt any of this get a dedicated surge protector if you are not using one already.

            First, you will need a CF card that will work--smaller than 256mb (I use SanDisk "Shoot&Store" Cards).
            Next you will need to purchase the NVRAM recovery tool, the Firmware Imaging Toolkit and service manual: http://www.justmanuals.com

            Once all that is accomplished, and you still need help get back with us

            **do not format the CF card!!**

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            • darry1322
              Senior Tech

              Site Contributor
              500+ Posts
              • Oct 2010
              • 817

              #7
              Re: C451 not booting

              From my experiences :

              1. Reload Firmware
              2. Replace NVRAM
              3. Replaced Printer Control Board

              These are better done by a trained tech.....

              Could still be other things, but those are in my experience.

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              • jotunn
                Senior Tech

                500+ Posts
                • Jan 2010
                • 595

                #8
                Re: C451 not booting

                It could be also faulty memory modules.

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                • JustManuals
                  Field Supervisor

                  5,000+ Posts
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 9838

                  #9
                  Re: C451 not booting

                  This Parts & Service Manual can now be purchased for $12.77 and downloaded immediately after payment from:


                  http://www.justmanuals.com


                  Paul@justmanuals.com

                  I also have the firmware and NVRAM recovery tools.

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                  • emujo
                    Field Supervisor

                    2,500+ Posts
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 3009

                    #10
                    Re: C451 not booting

                    I feel for you, but this forum isn't designed to teach you how to work on your MFP. If you have no copier knowledge, then you are only going to make things worse. Can you return the MFP or get the seller to handle the repairs? It may be as simple as a bad memory chip, but it could also be a bad MFP board, power supply, or corrupt firmware. All of these (except the memory, this can be replaced with a store bought brand and is pretty simple) should be addressed by a qualified tech. BTW what is "quark" "I bought it from quark". Emujo
                    If you don't see your question answered in the forum, please don't think it's OK to PM me for a personal reply...I do not give out firmware and/or manuals.

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                    • copierguru
                      Technician
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 27

                      #11
                      Re: C451 not booting

                      Disconnect the hd and see if it will boot up. Could be bad. And like mentioned reflash fw dimm memory could be no good.

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                      • cokwax
                        Technician

                        50+ Posts
                        • May 2013
                        • 50

                        #12
                        Re: C451 not booting

                        A tech came today, with NVRAM, fixed and the machine displayed (passed the KM logo screen).
                        However, there was C0105 trouble code where the machine again got locked up on. The touch panel was unresponsive so he couldn't touch "continue operation."

                        What could be causing the screen lock?
                        Tech suspects printer board and it takes him a full day to travel back to test it and return.

                        I would appreciate any urgent help before he removes the printer board!!
                        Last edited by cokwax; 12-22-2013, 09:18 PM.

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                        • Synaux
                          Service Manager

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                          • Mar 2012
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                          #13
                          Re: C451 not booting

                          Originally posted by cokwax
                          A tech came today, with NVRAM, fixed and the machine displayed (passed the KM logo screen).
                          However, there was C0105 trouble code where the machine again got locked up on. The touch panel was unresponsive so he couldn't touch "continue operation."

                          What could be causing the screen lock?
                          Tech suspects printer board and it takes him a full day to travel back to test it and return.

                          I would appreciate any urgent help before he removes the printer board!!
                          C0105=Failed Power Board.

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                          • Synaux
                            Service Manager

                            Site Contributor
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                            • Mar 2012
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                            #14
                            Re: C451 not booting

                            I just ran across this looking for something else

                            C0105 - Fuse 301 has failed on the Power Supply Board.

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