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  • seconds away
    • May 2025
    #1

    [Misc] Laying copier over for road transport

    Hi, I hope questions from non-industry folks are OK.

    I am considering the purchase of a second hand Konica Minolta bizhub C250 photocopier, the current owner tells me they laid it over onto its back when moving it from their office to the their home and they are unsure if it has been powered up since.

    Will having laid it over cause problems?

    Are there any maintenance/checks that can be done to prevent or fix any problems that might arise?

    I live in a small remote country town and nicely priced 2nd hand units are hard to come by, so I am prepared to put a little bit of time into it if necessary.

    thankyou,

    Michael
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    • ZOOTECH
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      • Jul 2007
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      #2
      Re: Laying copier over for road transport

      Originally posted by seconds away
      Hi, I hope questions from non-industry folks are OK.

      I am considering the purchase of a second hand Konica Minolta bizhub C250 photocopier, the current owner tells me they laid it over onto its back when moving it from their office to the their home and they are unsure if it has been powered up since.

      Will having laid it over cause problems?

      Are there any maintenance/checks that can be done to prevent or fix any problems that might arise?

      I live in a small remote country town and nicely priced 2nd hand units are hard to come by, so I am prepared to put a little bit of time into it if necessary.

      thankyou,

      Michael
      I don't know Konica Minolta machines, but in general, a machine laying on it back or sides, will cause all sorts of problems with supplies (toner, developer, etc.), and will take a considerable amount of labor and new supplies to bring it up to specs. Probably not the best way to go, IMHO.
      "You can't trust your eyes, if your mind is out of focus" --

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        • seconds away
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          Re: Laying copier over for road transport

          Originally posted by ZOOTECH
          I don't know Konica Minolta machines, but in general, a machine laying on it back or sides, will cause all sorts of problems with supplies (toner, developer, etc.), and will take a considerable amount of labor and new supplies to bring it up to specs. Probably not the best way to go, IMHO.
          That's what I was afraid of... will the supplies leak out if laid over?

          It's possible they may have taken the toner carts out, but I'm certain they wouldn't have removed the drum.

          I haven't actually seen this machine yet, just talked to the guy once on the phone.

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            • blackcat4866
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              • Jul 2007
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              Re: Laying copier over for road transport

              One of my customers had their own trucks, and loaded up a Canon NP-6060 for shipping from Florida to Michigan. The lift operator was worried it would tip over, so he flopped it over on it's back and banded it down to the skid with 1" steel bands. Then it rode 600+ miles in the back of a tractor trailer.

              This is where I got involved. The Michigan office called me to ask for help standing it back up. We used 2" wide lift straps and a lift. We set it down very gently. Then there was a sound of small parts tumbling to the bottom. Several small green pieces of fiberglass circuit board trickled out, most about 1".

              The entire back of that machine was covered with circuit boards, now in 1" randomly shaped bits. And the 1" steel bands were kind of rough on it too. The covers were split everywhere there was a band, and the glass broken. I was able to scavenge a fuser, a developing unit, and a drum cleaning unit. The rest went in the dumpster.

              Copiers are designed to stand vertical, and only vertical. Most likely you've got some recycleable metal, broken plastic, and spilled toner, and not much else. =^..^=
              Last edited by blackcat4866; 05-26-2014, 09:44 PM.
              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                • Tonerbomb
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                  • Feb 2005
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                  Re: Laying copier over for road transport

                  Bad, Very very bad idea to buy this unit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Everything the others have warned about is true !!!!!!!!!!!!


                  would you buy a car the insurance co totaled???????????????
                  Mystic Crystal Revelations

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                    • copier tech
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                      • Jan 2014
                      • 8103
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                      Re: Laying copier over for road transport

                      The C250 is so old now, don't waste your time.

                      I would suggest you find a low millage C280 this is a good model & cheap the buy used.
                      Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

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                        • seconds away
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                          Re: Laying copier over for road transport

                          Originally posted by copier tech
                          The C250 is so old now, don't waste your time.

                          I would suggest you find a low millage C280 this is a good model & cheap the buy used.
                          Unfortunately, I'm not able to shop around... I live 7 hrs from a population centre large enough for that! My budget doesn't quite sretch that far and my requirements only just meet the need for a copier the size of a C250.

                          I'm definately hearing what everyone is saying though, and even though this is a cheap, low mileage unit I think I'll pass on this one. I can make do with a multi-function inkjet for the time being.

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                            • ZOOTECH
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                              Re: Laying copier over for road transport

                              Originally posted by seconds away
                              Unfortunately, I'm not able to shop around... I live 7 hrs from a population centre large enough for that! My budget doesn't quite sretch that far and my requirements only just meet the need for a copier the size of a C250.

                              I'm definately hearing what everyone is saying though, and even though this is a cheap, low mileage unit I think I'll pass on this one. I can make do with a multi-function inkjet for the time being.
                              I think this might be your best move.
                              "You can't trust your eyes, if your mind is out of focus" --

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                                • blackcat4866
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                                  Re: Laying copier over for road transport

                                  The best you can hope for is some of the units surviving for later use. This is a parts machine at best. =^..^=
                                  If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                                  1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                                  2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                                  3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                                  4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                                  5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                                  blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                                    • slimslob
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                                      Re: Laying copier over for road transport

                                      You might try PMing (Private Messaging) blsquires. Let him know what size and price range you are looking for and maybe he can find you something.

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