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  • solidzdawg
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • Jul 2013
    • 71

    #1

    [CQ] Bizhub 601 light density

    What on a 601 can cause light density (washed out like old developer) , I have replaced drum, dv, new PM kit. Total count is 1mil

    I'm gonna go in Monday with Trans sep unit, and charge Corona unit...
  • ZOOTECH
    Senior member of CRS

    Site Contributor
    2,500+ Posts
    • Jul 2007
    • 3374

    #2
    Re: Bizhub 601 light density

    Originally posted by solidzdawg
    What on a 601 can cause light density (washed out like old developer) , I have replaced drum, dv, new PM kit. Total count is 1mil

    I'm gonna go in Monday with Trans sep unit, and charge Corona unit...
    Have you tried an emergency stop to see if drum has solid fill?
    "You can't trust your eyes, if your mind is out of focus" --

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    • RRodgers
      Service Manager

      1,000+ Posts
      • Jun 2009
      • 1947

      #3
      Re: Bizhub 601 light density

      Have you cleared counters and ran adjustments for the parts you've replaced?
      Color is not 4 times harder... it's 65,000 times harder. They call it "TECH MODE" for a reason. I have manual's and firmware for ya, course... you are going to have to earn it.

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      • Jazzwcs
        Technician
        • Jun 2012
        • 40

        #4
        Re: Bizhub 601 light density

        Could be a charge or voltage issue. Also check the dev unit itself to see if the toner is backed up. With 1 million on copier, I suspect the the dev unit gears and/or bushings might be bad and dev unit needs to be replaced. Otherwise you are looking at either charge corona or hv unit issue.

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        • solidzdawg
          Technician

          50+ Posts
          • Jul 2013
          • 71

          #5
          Here's an update on this disaster

          I have replaced developing unit, charge Corona unit, transfer/sep unit, to no avail. I will upload image later but the halftone looks washed out and poor overall still.

          I'm gonna throw a new drum cartridge in it Monday. I have also checked voltages and compared to a good working 601. I have never seen this before.

          Thanks for the help guys, I appreciate any more ideas!

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          • blackcat4866
            Master Of The Obvious

            Site Contributor
            10,000+ Posts
            • Jul 2007
            • 22932

            #6
            Re: Bizhub 601 light density

            And the latent image? Is the image properly developed on the drum? =^..^=
            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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            • wseyller
              Service Manager

              1,000+ Posts
              • Sep 2012
              • 1129

              #7
              Never mentioned whether you cleared counts and did all of the adjustments required.

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              • solidzdawg
                Technician

                50+ Posts
                • Jul 2013
                • 71

                #8
                I ran all adjustments and cleared counters following the service manual to a T. I've maintenenced this model of machines quite a bit so I am familiar with the basics like that.

                I haven't ran a stop test to look at the drum specifically, just after the transfer, before being fused. It seems hard to time the stop test to leave image on drum and not the paper (I'm kind of a noob sometimes)

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                • EarthKmTech
                  Step aside, noob

                  1,000+ Posts
                  • May 2009
                  • 2139

                  #9
                  Re: Bizhub 601 light density

                  I've had a faulty drum sensor board cause ultra light, washed out prints (new out of the box)

                  they can and do fail from esd when vacuuming around them with an inappropriate vacuum cleaner / nozzle too, same goes for the ADU board blowing when vacuuming around to reg section. I blew my fair share of those when I started in the industry and my employer was too cheap to buy me a proper vacuum cleaner.

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                  • CraigW
                    Trusted Tech

                    Site Contributor
                    250+ Posts
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 417

                    #10
                    Re: Bizhub 601 light density

                    Originally posted by solidzdawg
                    . It seems hard to time the stop test to leave image on drum and not the paper (I'm kind of a noob sometimes)

                    Cheat the front doors and peer in.... use legal, and an 01 print in service mode.

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                    • Synaux
                      Service Manager

                      Site Contributor
                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 1224

                      #11
                      Re: Bizhub 601 light density

                      The TCR board can fail.
                      I keep my air compressor with me (mini Harbor Freight model). On the 601s (and earlier models), I obliterate and destroy. It is amazing how far you can throw a chunk of toner with 150psi and no damage to the infrastructure --in other words take the air to it (outside).

                      That drum carriage will be spotless. Works every-time for me.


                      Hope this helps.

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