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  • nathicana
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    Kyocera 8001 jam 4913 4915 4918

    This Kyocera 8001 has jam codes 4913 4915 4918 bridge conveying sensor 1 not turning off.

    Paper stops just entering the fuser, rolled up at finisher entrance, at primary feed and in conveying unit. Nothing in bridge area.

    Replaced drawer of bridge section and the drive unit behind the drawer which has BRCS1 and BRCS2 sensors.

    Problem is very intermittent, can happen single or two sided. Machine has 1.5 million copies.

    The firmware is up to date, fuser recently replaced. Has anyone had 49xx codes on the 6500/6501/8000/8001 type machines?
  • blackcat4866
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    Re: Kyocera 8001 jam 4913 4915 4918

    Oh yeah, I've been down that road. Take a look at the exit sensor flag. At 1.5M you'll have a very noticeable flat spot on the top surface of the flag.

    I went down that same road. I replaced the bridge sensors, flags, rollers, bushings, one-way bearings ... and none of it made any difference. Do I have a photo?:

    J4913-4.JPGJ4913-3.JPGJ4913-2.JPGJ4913-1.JPG

    =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    • Geo
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      #3
      Re: Kyocera 8001 jam 4913 4915 4918

      Hi

      While your taking care of the bridge unit issues, check the de curler flag and sensor...The sensor tends to get knocked out of place and a new style flag was released. The flag shaft is slightly shorter to allow a e/c clip to be used to hold it in place. Not sure of ser # cutoff.

      Have fun

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      • nathicana
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        Re: Kyocera 8001 jam 4913 4915 4918

        Originally posted by blackcat4866
        Oh yeah, I've been down that road. Take a look at the exit sensor flag. At 1.5M you'll have a very noticeable flat spot on the top surface of the flag.

        I went down that same road. I replaced the bridge sensors, flags, rollers, bushings, one-way bearings ... and none of it made any difference. Do I have a photo?:

        [ATTACH=CONFIG]36681[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]36682[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]36683[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]36684[/ATTACH]

        =^..^=

        Thank you so much for the prompt reply.

        This looks like middle guide from the exit unit just after the fixing area 302K994662. We will replace.

        I wanted to make sure it wasn't the relay exit unit at left end of the machine.

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        • blackcat4866
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          Re: Kyocera 8001 jam 4913 4915 4918

          Originally posted by nathicana
          Thank you so much for the prompt reply.

          This looks like middle guide from the exit unit just after the fixing area 302K994662. We will replace.

          I wanted to make sure it wasn't the relay exit unit at left end of the machine.
          That will do the trick.
          Usually I just order the flag (302K928121) and return spring (302K928190).

          The photo is of a short term MacGuyver that got the machine running until the part came in. =^..^=
          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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          • tmaged
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            Re: Kyocera 8001 jam 4913 4915 4918

            Originally posted by blackcat4866
            That will do the trick.
            Usually I just order the flag (302K928121) and return spring (302K928190).

            The photo is of a short term MacGuyver that got the machine running until the part came in. =^..^=
            The one with the paper clip was sheer brilliance !
            Hope that helps !
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            • blackcat4866
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              Re: Kyocera 8001 jam 4913 4915 4918

              Originally posted by tmaged
              The one with the paper clip was sheer brilliance !
              Thanks. AFAIK that one is still in the field passing paper:

              KM-8001i J4913.JPG

              If you work on Lexmark you'll understand my inspiration. =^..^=
              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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              • habik
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                Re: Kyocera 8001 jam 4913 4915 4918

                Originally posted by blackcat4866
                Thanks. AFAIK that one is still in the field passing paper:

                [ATTACH=CONFIG]36690[/ATTACH]

                If you work on Lexmark you'll understand my inspiration. =^..^=
                Quality BC.

                I am using mylars on both sides. They seem to do trick plus its self adhesive so it is sometimes quicker, like in the drum area of finisher.
                .OK Google! ... will I need Berrocca this morning?
                Firmwares HERE

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                • nathicana
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                  Re: Kyocera 8001 jam 4913 4915 4918

                  20170525_112936.jpgThanks for the help in getting this machine running!
                  Last edited by nathicana; 05-31-2017, 04:50 PM.

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                  • Geo
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                    Re: Kyocera 8001 jam 4913 4915 4918

                    Originally posted by blackcat4866
                    Thanks. AFAIK that one is still in the field passing paper:

                    [ATTACH=CONFIG]36690[/ATTACH]

                    If you work on Lexmark you'll understand my inspiration. =^..^=
                    Hi Blackcat

                    The universal multi-use paperclip is a fantastic idea ...I used it yesterday, and to secure it to the flag I used instant light activated super glue 5 Second Fix As Seen On TV UV Gluel Light Repair Tool Liquid Plastic Weld Pen | eBay . This seems to work well and the advantage is you can hold something in place and instantly bond it.


                    Thanks

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                    • blackcat4866
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                      Re: Kyocera 8001 jam 4913 4915 4918

                      I'm glad it worked for you. It's acronym on the paperwork is SPC or LPC depending on the size of the clip. =^..^=
                      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                      • blackcat4866
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                        Re: Kyocera 8001 jam 4913 4915 4918

                        Originally posted by Geo
                        Hi Blackcat

                        The universal multi-use paperclip is a fantastic idea ...I used it yesterday, and to secure it to the flag I used instant light activated super glue 5 Second Fix As Seen On TV UV Gluel Light Repair Tool Liquid Plastic Weld Pen | eBay . This seems to work well and the advantage is you can hold something in place and instantly bond it.


                        Thanks
                        I have a bunch of these (Lazer Bond 3 Second Fix - UV Light Repair Tool Liquid Plastic Weld Quick Welder | eBay I was quite disappointed with. it seems to adhere at first, instantly, but later on just falls off. I'll have to try the one you mentioned.

                        Overall I've had much better results with house brand 5 minute epoxy.
                        =^..^=
                        If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                        1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                        2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                        3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                        4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                        5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                        blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                        • Geo
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                          Re: Kyocera 8001 jam 4913 4915 4918

                          Originally posted by blackcat4866
                          I have a bunch of these (Lazer Bond 3 Second Fix - UV Light Repair Tool Liquid Plastic Weld Quick Welder | eBay I was quite disappointed with. it seems to adhere at first, instantly, but later on just falls off. I'll have to try the one you mentioned.

                          Overall I've had much better results with house brand 5 minute epoxy.
                          =^..^=
                          I use the UV just to set the broken piece/part in place , then follow up with the 5 minute epoxy and if appropriate , LPC or SPC whole or piece beaded in the epoxy for reinforcement.

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                          • Tonerbreath
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                            #14
                            Re: Kyocera 8001 jam 4913 4915 4918

                            Originally posted by blackcat4866
                            Oh yeah, I've been down that road. Take a look at the exit sensor flag. At 1.5M you'll have a very noticeable flat spot on the top surface of the flag.

                            I went down that same road. I replaced the bridge sensors, flags, rollers, bushings, one-way bearings ... and none of it made any difference. Do I have a photo?:

                            [ATTACH=CONFIG]36681[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]36682[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]36683[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]36684[/ATTACH]

                            =^..^=
                            Thanks for the post. Flag was worn just as you said. Picture tells the story

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                            • blackcat4866
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                              Re: Kyocera 8001 jam 4913 4915 4918

                              I'm glad it worked for you. =^..^=
                              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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