Charge Roller Change (Finally !)

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  • tmaged
    Owner/Service Manager

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    • Oct 2008
    • 1858

    #1

    Charge Roller Change (Finally !)

    We ordered an MC-8705 and it subbed out to an MC-8720. The new charge rollers have the updated glue to eliminate the bumps & a spiral cleaner to eliminate the lines.
    It only took them 6 years to fix it. Hopefully this does it. I asume the MC-6705 will be updated as well. I did notice they also did away with the gears in the end of the charge roller.
    Last edited by tmaged; 06-08-2017, 10:27 PM.
    Hope that helps !
    -Tony
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  • Kidaver
    Ghoulscout

    500+ Posts
    • Apr 2011
    • 912

    #2
    Re: Charge Roller Change (Finally !)

    That's good to know...I know our Tech Rep was looking into that for us on whether they were gonna retrofit them for the older machines...I'm glad they did this....I dunno how many of the things I've been cleaning lately...especially at schools with cheap ass paper....it's a frigging blizzard of paper dust in those things....
    "In a cruel and evil world, being cynical can allow you to get some entertainment out of it."

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    • Geo
      Senior Tech

      500+ Posts
      • Nov 2010
      • 662

      #3
      Re: Charge Roller Change (Finally !)

      Originally posted by tmaged
      We ordered an MC-8705 and it subbed out to an MC-8720. The new charger rollers are supposed to have the updated glue to eliminate the bumps & a spiral cleaner to eliminate the lines.
      It only took them 6 years to fix it. Hopefully this does it. I asume the MC-6705 will be updated as well. I did notice they also did away with the gears in the end of the charge roller.
      Hi

      This may be a silly question, but how did you determine or discover that glue is the problem ?


      Thanks

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      • tmaged
        Owner/Service Manager

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        #4
        Re: Charge Roller Change (Finally !)

        By taste, how else could you determine it ?
        just kidding, there was a bulletin for it, but when it came out, I thought
        to myself, why not fix the cleaning roller also. Apparently they heard me.
        Hope that helps !
        -Tony
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        • blackcat4866
          Master Of The Obvious

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          • Jul 2007
          • 22930

          #5
          Re: Charge Roller Change (Finally !)

          The glue has been a problem since the Alphard 1 first appeared. The symptom I noticed right away was the spider imprints where it would continue to arc from the same spots, Do we dare hope that Kyocera has designed a charge roller that can make yield? =^..^=
          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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          • tmaged
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            #6
            Re: Charge Roller Change (Finally !)

            Since we have a part number, now I was able to bulletin H042. It does in fact reference MC6720 for the mono machines.
            Hope that helps !
            -Tony
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            • daveh12
              Trusted Tech

              100+ Posts
              • Jul 2012
              • 157

              #7
              Re: Charge Roller Change (Finally !)

              Originally posted by tmaged
              We ordered an MC-8705 and it subbed out to an MC-8720. The new charge rollers have the updated glue to eliminate the bumps & a spiral cleaner to eliminate the lines.
              It only took them 6 years to fix it. Hopefully this does it. I asume the MC-6705 will be updated as well. I did notice they also did away with the gears in the end of the charge roller.
              At long last. Thanks [emoji106]


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              • Kyo fan
                Trusted Tech

                250+ Posts
                • Dec 2013
                • 368

                #8
                Re: Charge Roller Change (Finally !)

                Finally some good news regarding the charge rollers. If they would only take advices from techs...

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                • JR2ALTA
                  Service Manager

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                  • Feb 2010
                  • 2028

                  #9
                  Re: Charge Roller Change (Finally !)

                  I would've traded better charge rollers for the ability to pull them out of the machine without taking that damn toner contraption off.

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                  • tmaged
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                    #10
                    Re: Charge Roller Change (Finally !)

                    Originally posted by JR2ALTA
                    I would've traded better charge rollers for the ability to pull them out of the machine without taking that damn toner contraption off.
                    If these things work like they're supposed to, you will only need to every 600k.
                    Hope that helps !
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                    • blackcat4866
                      Master Of The Obvious

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                      #11
                      Re: Charge Roller Change (Finally !)

                      Originally posted by tmaged
                      If these things work like they're supposed to, you will only need to every 600k.
                      Many of the older Lexmark printers had primary charge rollers that mounted inside the engine, separate from the imaging unit, and lasted the lifetime of the machine. So it is possible to make durable charge rollers, just not by Kyocera. =^..^=
                      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                      • JR2ALTA
                        Service Manager

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                        • Feb 2010
                        • 2028

                        #12
                        Re: Charge Roller Change (Finally !)

                        The roller is a quantum leap from the grid/corona wire. I can handle some problems that can be fixed quickly. Kyocera is heads and shoulders above other models regarding logic codes, dimms, hdds and other non mechanical failures

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                        • temas
                          Technician
                          • May 2011
                          • 22

                          #13
                          Re: Charge Roller Change (Finally !)

                          Originally posted by tmaged
                          We ordered an MC-8705 and it subbed out to an MC-8720. The new charge rollers have the updated glue to eliminate the bumps & a spiral cleaner to eliminate the lines.
                          It only took them 6 years to fix it. Hopefully this does it. I asume the MC-6705 will be updated as well. I did notice they also did away with the gears in the end of the charge roller.
                          Hello mate. can you please share link to the service bullettin. i need to convince a customer. i have access to the kyoceraextranet but cant find the bulletin.

                          regards
                          Do not find fault, find a Remedy, anybody can complain.

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                          • tmaged
                            Owner/Service Manager

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                            #14
                            Re: Charge Roller Change (Finally !)

                            Originally posted by temas
                            Hello mate. can you please share link to the service bullettin. i need to convince a customer. i have access to the kyoceraextranet but cant find the bulletin.

                            regards
                            PM me your address & I'll email it to you.
                            Hope that helps !
                            -Tony
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                            • Geo
                              Senior Tech

                              500+ Posts
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 662

                              #15
                              Re: Charge Roller Change (Finally !)

                              Originally posted by tmaged
                              If these things work like they're supposed to, you will only need to every 600k.
                              Now if they would only improve feed rollers life...I'm not greedy....300k min. per set would be a nice bare minimum...

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