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  • drazen7777
    Technician
    • Sep 2010
    • 40

    #1

    P6035cdn Load Cassette 1 message

    Hy to all ,

    Has anyone had similar case with P6035. Device when printing one page works normally (mented to release drawer slightly after print )but when printing several page (drawer release is done too far ) so when print is finished massage Check cassette 1 is displayed , open drawer and close print continues for one print and for several prints random same thing happens.
    Video on link


    So far changed sensor board for paper , drawer , and all electrical boards except for power supply and high voltage.

    Thanks for info if someone has some!
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  • blackcat4866
    Master Of The Obvious

    Site Contributor
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    • Jul 2007
    • 22881

    #2
    Re: P6035cdn Load Cassette 1 massage

    I was expecting to hear the loud clacking of the paper lift gears jumping, which is not the case.

    Perhaps you've got a slow feed situation where the machine interprets the paper size to be a mismatch (too large) since it takes too long to clear a sensor. Have you changed the rollers? It could be that simple. Is this one of those small Kyoceras with the spring on the pickup roller assembly? I've seen something similar if that spring is gone/missing.

    pickup assembly spring.JPG

    =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

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    • drazen7777
      Technician
      • Sep 2010
      • 40

      #3
      Re: P6035cdn Load Cassette 1 massage

      Originally posted by blackcat4866
      I was expecting to hear the loud clacking of the paper lift gears jumping, which is not the case.

      Perhaps you've got a slow feed situation where the machine interprets the paper size to be a mismatch (too large) since it takes too long to clear a sensor. Have you changed the rollers? It could be that simple. Is this one of those small Kyoceras with the spring on the pickup roller assembly? I've seen something similar if that spring is gone/missing.

      [ATTACH=CONFIG]37529[/ATTACH]

      =^..^=
      No , feed is all right , rollers changed preventively and they are new , springs are in place , something causes that drawer is lowered more than it should and printer confuses it self (i presume) because sensor tells him that there is no paper when he lowered drawer and there was paper when he finished print job , i thought for that paper sensors and replaced them , but still the same , the worst part of it is that it happens random , every 2 or 3 print series.
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      • Lance15
        Service Manager

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        1,000+ Posts
        • Jun 2015
        • 1071

        #4
        Re: P6035cdn Load Cassette 1 message

        I'm very vaguely familiar with this model. We just started working on Kyocera's this year on request of one of our accounts. This model looks like its the bigger brother of the P6021/P6025 series, so, I'm guessing its the same engine. In the attached picture, I've circle what looks like how the printer detects how much paper is in the tray. I may be wrong. Is everything working properly with those parts? Anything "slow"?
        Pages from EcoSys P6021, C5x50 Series Parts List.jpg

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        • Where is my screwdriver
          Technician
          • Nov 2016
          • 16

          #5
          Re: P6035cdn Load Cassette 1 message

          I have found that even if the spring on the feed assembly is in place it can become compacted. Remove the spring and stretch it back out slightly and refit. This has solved a lot of issues.

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          • drazen7777
            Technician
            • Sep 2010
            • 40

            #6
            Re: P6035cdn Load Cassette 1 message

            Originally posted by Where is my screwdriver
            I have found that even if the spring on the feed assembly is in place it can become compacted. Remove the spring and stretch it back out slightly and refit. This has solved a lot of issues.
            Thanks for this tip , tried swapping whole feed assembly with spring from new device , still was the same , but when i stretched spring so far seems to be working , will test it some more but this could be it.

            Best regards

            Drazen
            Technician -- a person who fixes the mistakes made by engineers.

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            • RoyROd
              Technician
              • Mar 2013
              • 29

              #7
              Re: P6035cdn Load Cassette 1 message

              Originally posted by drazen7777
              Thanks for this tip , tried swapping whole feed assembly with spring from new device , still was the same , but when i stretched spring so far seems to be working , will test it some more but this could be it.

              Best regards

              Drazen
              Good day Drazen, I stumbled upon your post and your youtube video because I am currently trying to deal with this problem, was stretching the spring a good fix or did the problem occur again?

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              • drazen7777
                Technician
                • Sep 2010
                • 40

                #8
                Re: P6035cdn Load Cassette 1 message

                Originally posted by RoyROd
                Good day Drazen, I stumbled upon your post and your youtube video because I am currently trying to deal with this problem, was stretching the spring a good fix or did the problem occur again?
                Hy device did not come back to service since then so i presume it works, i had several cases and solved them in the same way. Kyocera made service bulletin from this case and it is the same suggestion - stretch the spring.

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                • dwightwilliams

                  #9
                  Re: P6035cdn Load Cassette 1 message

                  I am having a similar issue on a 6035 cdn. If i push the paper cassette all the way into the machine and leave it there, i will get the check cassette error. However, if i push in the tray, and then wiggle it a little, the tray lifts and loads properly. All of the roller assemblys are new, inclusove of the spring. Is there anything else that would cause this issue???

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                  • blackcat4866
                    Master Of The Obvious

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                    • Jul 2007
                    • 22881

                    #10
                    Re: P6035cdn Load Cassette 1 message

                    Originally posted by dwightwilliams
                    I am having a similar issue on a 6035 cdn. If i push the paper cassette all the way into the machine and leave it there, i will get the check cassette error. However, if i push in the tray, and then wiggle it a little, the tray lifts and loads properly. All of the roller assemblys are new, inclusove of the spring. Is there anything else that would cause this issue???

                    YouTube
                    Do you get a message "Set Cassette"? The paper size switch at the bottom CSSW SW0 is the switch used to identify LTR paper, and it's the one that fails first. If memory serves you can check the switch operation at YC17 pins 3, 4 to check continuity. It's a bit more work to get the switch removed. If you're brave, or bravely stupid like me, it is possible to pop the cover off the paper size switch assy and reform the very tiny contacts. It is a bit frustrating to re-assemble, I must warn you. =^..^=
                    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                    • dwightwilliams

                      #11
                      Re: P6035cdn Load Cassette 1 message

                      Originally posted by blackcat4866
                      Do you get a message "Set Cassette"? The paper size switch at the bottom CSSW SW0 is the switch used to identify LTR paper, and it's the one that fails first. If memory serves you can check the switch operation at YC17 pins 3, 4 to check continuity. It's a bit more work to get the switch removed. If you're brave, or bravely stupid like me, it is possible to pop the cover off the paper size switch assy and reform the very tiny contacts. It is a bit frustrating to re-assemble, I must warn you. =^..^=
                      My message says "Check cassette 1"

                      Would an issue with the sive switch possibly cause the machine to not see the tray properly?

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                      • drazen7777
                        Technician
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 40

                        #12
                        Re: P6035cdn Load Cassette 1 message

                        Originally posted by dwightwilliams
                        My message says "Check cassette 1"

                        Would an issue with the sive switch possibly cause the machine to not see the tray properly?

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                        Hy , did you stretch the spring even if it is new spring , in my case even the new spring did not worked , after stretching a bit resolved a problem.

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                        • dwightwilliams

                          #13
                          Re: P6035cdn Load Cassette 1 message

                          Originally posted by drazen7777
                          Hy , did you stretch the spring even if it is new spring , in my case even the new spring did not worked , after stretching a bit resolved a problem.

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                          I tried that prior to replacing it woth no change in symptom.

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                          • blackcat4866
                            Master Of The Obvious

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                            • Jul 2007
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                            #14
                            Re: P6035cdn Load Cassette 1 message

                            For my scenario it will display "Set Cassette" only, and not lift. =^..^=
                            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                            • Alexkyocera
                              Technician

                              50+ Posts
                              • Jul 2015
                              • 81

                              #15
                              Re: P6035cdn Load Cassette 1 message

                              Originally posted by RoyROd
                              Good day Drazen, I stumbled upon your post and your youtube video because I am currently trying to deal with this problem, was stretching the spring a good fix or did the problem occur again?
                              My fix was to bent the paper sensor. When you tilt the machine to look under, there should be a white sensor that detects the paper, bent that sensor in the downward position and it resolves the issue.

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