Kyocera Taskalfa 6550ci exit unit motor stalls

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  • carolscurriculum
    Technician
    • May 2017
    • 39

    Kyocera Taskalfa 6550ci exit unit motor stalls

    Hello I have a Kyocera Taskalfa 6550ci jam code 4211 I found that the exit unit motor stalls I replaced the motor same problem it spins until the paper hits it then stops. could it be a wiring harness or board?

    Thanks
  • ntbann
    Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • Jan 2012
    • 613

    #2
    Re: Kyocera Taskalfa 6550ci exit unit motor stalls

    That code is for fuser exit jam. Probably would take a look at that.

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    • carolscurriculum
      Technician
      • May 2017
      • 39

      #3
      Re: Kyocera Taskalfa 6550ci exit unit motor stalls

      Originally posted by ntbann
      That code is for fuser exit jam. Probably would take a look at that.

      I have already ruled that out it shows fuser because it cant get past the exit unit the paper stalls the motor. I'm assuming low voltage to the motor but wondering if its a harness or board.

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      • ntbann
        Senior Tech

        500+ Posts
        • Jan 2012
        • 613

        #4
        Re: Kyocera Taskalfa 6550ci exit unit motor stalls

        Did you test the sensors?

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        • carolscurriculum
          Technician
          • May 2017
          • 39

          #5
          Re: Kyocera Taskalfa 6550ci exit unit motor stalls

          Originally posted by ntbann
          Did you test the sensors?

          Yes replaced them all I even replaced the motor The motor locks up when paper hits it. its a power issue.

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          • sparkycivic
            Trusted Tech

            250+ Posts
            • Apr 2017
            • 348

            #6
            Re: Kyocera Taskalfa 6550ci exit unit motor stalls

            the exit motor is likely stalling because the fuser exit signal wasn't received during the allowed time. the sensor is within the fuser...

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            • carolscurriculum
              Technician
              • May 2017
              • 39

              #7
              Re: Kyocera Taskalfa 6550ci exit unit motor stalls

              Originally posted by sparkycivic
              the exit motor is likely stalling because the fuser exit signal wasn't received during the allowed time. the sensor is within the fuser...
              Nope it stalls when I run Maintenance mode 0030 cw & counter clockwise sometimes it starts and sometimes it doesn't nothing to do with the fuser

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              • justanotherhack
                Technician

                50+ Posts
                • Apr 2015
                • 74

                #8
                Re: Kyocera Taskalfa 6550ci exit unit motor stalls

                Power for that motor comes from the engine pwb, through the front pwb. It's a pulse motor, so checking drive voltage to it is nearly impossible. Chances are, unless someone's been yanking on the wiring and a connector is loose, you've got a bad board, one or more of the 4 pulse lines to that motor not working. My experience suggests the most likely culprit is the engine board.

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                • carolscurriculum
                  Technician
                  • May 2017
                  • 39

                  #9
                  Re: Kyocera Taskalfa 6550ci exit unit motor stalls

                  Originally posted by justanotherhack
                  Power for that motor comes from the engine pwb, through the front pwb. It's a pulse motor, so checking drive voltage to it is nearly impossible. Chances are, unless someone's been yanking on the wiring and a connector is loose, you've got a bad board, one or more of the 4 pulse lines to that motor not working. My experience suggests the most likely culprit is the engine board.
                  Replaced board new firmware and still stalls front pwb?

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                  • Phil B.
                    Field Supervisor

                    10,000+ Posts
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 22808

                    #10
                    Re: Kyocera Taskalfa 6550ci exit unit motor stalls

                    could the fuser be stalling just long enough so the page doesn't exit in the allotted milliseconds?

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                    • blackcat4866
                      Master Of The Obvious

                      Site Contributor
                      10,000+ Posts
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 22703

                      #11
                      Re: Kyocera Taskalfa 6550ci exit unit motor stalls

                      I can confirm that you can make a color developing motor spin more slowly, weaken, and occasionally stall ... if a person were to accidentally ... oh, say, pinch a single wire in the harness that leads to that motor ... to frame ground ... on a Copystar CS-500ci.

                      Don't ask me how I know. =^..^=
                      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                      • Phil B.
                        Field Supervisor

                        10,000+ Posts
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 22808

                        #12
                        Re: Kyocera Taskalfa 6550ci exit unit motor stalls

                        Originally posted by blackcat4866
                        Don't ask me how I know. =^..^=
                        musta followed up on a prob from a newbie ....


                        yup yup yup that's the explanation!!

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                        • darry1322
                          Senior Tech

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                          500+ Posts
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 817

                          #13
                          Re: Kyocera Taskalfa 6550ci exit unit motor stalls

                          Originally posted by blackcat4866
                          I can confirm that you can make a color developing motor spin more slowly, weaken, and occasionally stall ... if a person were to accidentally ... oh, say, pinch a single wire in the harness that leads to that motor ... to frame ground ... on a Copystar CS-500ci.

                          Don't ask me how I know. =^..^=

                          Or make a transfer belt on a 300Ci rotate at random times. Even at idle.

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                          • carolscurriculum
                            Technician
                            • May 2017
                            • 39

                            #14
                            Re: Kyocera Taskalfa 6550ci exit unit motor stalls

                            Originally posted by Phil B.
                            could the fuser be stalling just long enough so the page doesn't exit in the allotted milliseconds?
                            No when in maintenance mode I run the motor and stick a piece of paper in and it immediately stops.

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