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  • Raymann
    Technician
    • Apr 2015
    • 73

    fs 6525

    light streaks on doctor blade. I have cleaned doctor blade but keeps conming back. Can I get this apart and purge it or should I just replace the unit? thanks Ray
  • Phil B.
    Field Supervisor

    10,000+ Posts
    • Jul 2016
    • 22808

    #2
    Re: fs 6525

    Originally posted by Raymann
    light streaks on doctor blade. I have cleaned doctor blade but keeps conming back. Can I get this apart and purge it or should I just replace the unit? thanks Ray
    you have clumped toner in the dev unit... not sure if those are rebuildable or just replace.

    tell customer they have to shake the new toner before replacing it.

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    • blackcat4866
      Master Of The Obvious

      Site Contributor
      10,000+ Posts
      • Jul 2007
      • 22698

      #3
      Re: fs 6525

      I suppose that's going to depend on how many of these obstructions you have and how large they are. I had a Toshiba Loire X the other day with developer rocks up to 3.5mm. But the problem was not the 3.5mm rocks, it was the 1.5mm rocks that would wedge into the doctor blade, occasionally slowing or stalling the developer drive, and creating jitter crossfeed.

      When it's just one or two clumps I'll try to fish them out with the patented heavy mylar hook. Simply slip it in under the doctor blade and drag across the affected area, then rotate the developer drive while pulling out the hook. The rock comes with, and you can usually remove it. It requires no disassembly.

      I doubt that you'd be successful with disassembly anyway. Every effort at disassembling Kyocera developing units has resulted in a pile of unreassembleable parts. In each case I've had to replace the unit.

      Back to the Loire X, these rocks were extremely destructive. The mag roller was badly scored, and will probably have to be replaced eventually. I was in one of those persistent moods and had sorted through most of the developer, gathering nearly a teaspoonful of these rocks. I'm still at a loss as to how they got there. Even then when I poured it back in there were still (5) light areas, at which point I gave up and changed out the developer. I was still finding rocks after a very thorough vacuuming.

      Maybe a bad batch of developer? Maybe it got overheated in somebody's car and there were composite rocks of toner and developer fused together? Or maybe it was the supplemental developer in the toner, but I don't think the last one. It has not re-occurred, and it would have. And it's definitely ferrite (or has ferrite) since I could use a magnet to make the particles stand on end for examination purposes. =^..^=

      Mylar Doctor Blade Cleaner.JPG
      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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      • craigster
        Trusted Tech

        100+ Posts
        • Apr 2016
        • 200

        #4
        Re: fs 6525

        Replace developer unit and hope they are not using generic toner, which will cause that same issue.

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        • Raymann
          Technician
          • Apr 2015
          • 73

          #5
          Re: fs 6525

          Ok I have a new dv unut. The manual does not give me any clue. When I replace it do I need to run a toner add sim or just run it to fill the dv unit? Thanks Ray

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          • mita
            Technician

            50+ Posts
            • Sep 2010
            • 87

            #6
            Re: fs 6525

            Just replace it they set up automatically

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            • blackcat4866
              Master Of The Obvious

              Site Contributor
              10,000+ Posts
              • Jul 2007
              • 22698

              #7
              Re: fs 6525

              Most Kyoceras now (including this one) are dual component developing and come with developer right in them. When you turn the machine ON after changing the unit, it will recognize the new EEPROM and stir automatically. =^..^=
              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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              • copydocinc
                Trusted Tech

                Site Contributor
                250+ Posts
                • Mar 2015
                • 260

                #8
                Re: fs 6525

                Originally posted by blackcat4866
                Most Kyoceras now (including this one) are dual component developing and come with developer right in them. When you turn the machine ON after changing the unit, it will recognize the new EEPROM and stir automatically. =^..^=
                This machine is not dual component. No developer in this one. Clean out developer unit of all toner, clean doctor blade. Toner will either load automatically, because it will detect that it is low on toner or you will have to manually add toner by
                1. open and close front door, many times
                2.run blank copies or
                3. add toner outside of machine.
                You can of course replace the developer unit and it will add toner automatically(takes about 10 minutes).

                Note: I have used nothing but compatible toners for this model and have had toner problems only once(customer stored toner in attic where it was very hot and clumped up the toner) I had to clean it out and start with a clean unit again. Just sayin.

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                • Raymann
                  Technician
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 73

                  #9
                  Re: fs 6525

                  Yes it is a mono developer thanks for mentioning that. I have installed a new dv unit but it did not automatically add toner. Was opening door turning off and on........now what am I missing.........?

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                  • jonhiker
                    Senior Tech

                    500+ Posts
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 661

                    #10
                    Re: fs 6525

                    I haven't worked on a kyocera in a while, but I thought there was something in service mode that you had to run to fill the dv unit. It takes like 5-10 minutes

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                    • blackcat4866
                      Master Of The Obvious

                      Site Contributor
                      10,000+ Posts
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 22698

                      #11
                      Re: fs 6525

                      Thanks for that correction. Yes this is one of the last monocomponent Kyoceras.

                      To fill the developing unit: System Menu > Adjustment/Maintenance > Service Setting > Developer > Start
                      =^..^=
                      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                      • albenbalinong
                        Technician
                        • Sep 2015
                        • 30

                        #12
                        Re: fs 6525

                        There is a procedure to run the toner bottle and feed the toner to the dv unit. If you're not sure about the steps you can manually transfer the toner to the dv unit.

                        This is mono component so there is no callibration like developer callibration ..

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                        • Raymann
                          Technician
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 73

                          #13
                          Re: fs 6525

                          Finally got it done. The system menu was the enigma that I needed to solve thanks Blackcat4866. and all the other contributors.

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                          • Raymann
                            Technician
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 73

                            #14
                            Re: fs 6525

                            And kyosera went away from mono? good I always liked dual developing systems.......

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