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  • bsm2
    IT Manager

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    • Feb 2008
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    #16
    Re: FS-2100DN network question

    Originally posted by wragsdale
    I wasn't trying to imply that you have been doing anything wrong, just that maybe it isn't black and white. I can be a bit dry with my responses so I understand why you took it personally, but we're all just having a discussion here. I don't bring my ego to an internet forum about copiers and it'd be nice to expect the same from the other professionals here.

    The whole line of reasoning (Setting change -> router failure -> better have a good attorney) is such an odd way of looking at it, though. The idea of setting a reservation on a small network is to avoid issues with incompetent (read: non-existent) network management. Assuming an unused IP address without a reservation is exactly how you end up with an IP conflict.

    Also, a router failure where a static address was set vs a router failure with a reservation will both result in no printing. Replacing hardware and settings in both scenarios will result in printing resuming. I'm not entirely sure what your point is there.

    Again, I'm not challenging you or the idea that setting a static IP works. I think that, when possible, approach the customer and arrange for a better solution than just picking an IP address.
    If you touch there router YOU OWN IT, Doesn't matter if it's a week or two years from now, The Customer will ALWAYS blame YOU.
    As far as router failure both will result in no printing?????? NOPE router replaced with same ip range everyone will still print.
    Last edited by bsm2; 08-13-2019, 01:38 AM.

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    • Santander
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      #17
      Re: FS-2100DN network question

      Originally posted by bsm2
      Setting a static ipaddress for printers is basic networking 101, However setting a reservation IS NOT within YOUR scope of work.
      You would ask if they had IT to give you a static ipaddress or if it's a small company you would add 50 to 100 to there ipaddress as to NOT have a problem pulling a ipaddress set to there PC range. If your company lets you make ip reservations on customers networks good for you, hope your company has good attorneys and there router never fails.
      Setting a printer to a static IP WITH making a reservation in DHCP is networking 101 and the preferred method, just setting a static IP is not. And yes, some of us here do have network certifications.

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      • bsm2
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        #18
        Re: FS-2100DN network question

        Originally posted by Santander
        Setting a printer to a static IP WITH making a reservation in DHCP is networking 101 and the preferred method, just setting a static IP is not. And yes, some of us here do have network certifications.

        Stick to main body Your NOT a IT tech!

        If you touch there router YOU OWN IT, Doesn't matter if it's a week or two years from now, The Customer will ALWAYS blame YOU.
        As far as router failure both will result in no printing?????? NOPE router replaced with same ip range everyone will still print.

        Setting a static ipaddress for printers is basic networking 101, However setting a reservation IS NOT within YOUR scope of work.
        Last edited by bsm2; 08-13-2019, 01:38 AM.

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        • tmaged
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          #19
          Re: FS-2100DN network question

          Geo, it usually comes up as undefined if the gateway doesn't match the subnet of the IP address. Make sure you have it entered in correctly. That's experience speaking.
          Hope that helps !
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          • Firthy
            Technician
            • Apr 2019
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            #20
            Re: FS-2100DN network question

            Boys boys boys. Lets cut the shit, f the router just go straight to usp print. No static ip issues there problem solved!

            Serious question here, Why not install to network using the printers host name? Its not an mfp, can only print

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            • bsm2
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              #21
              Re: FS-2100DN network question

              Originally posted by Firthy
              Boys boys boys. Lets cut the shit, f the router just go straight to usp print. No static ip issues there problem solved!

              Serious question here, Why not install to network using the printers host name? Its not an mfp, can only print

              Using Host name relies on DNS working, Static does not. Can you use host name Yes but it is not the preferred method.
              Using Static ipaddress takes DNS out of the picture.

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              • Santander
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                #22
                Re: FS-2100DN network question

                Originally posted by bsm2
                Stick to main body Your NOT a IT tech!

                If you touch there router YOU OWN IT, Doesn't matter if it's a week or two years from now, The Customer will ALWAYS blame YOU.
                As far as router failure both will result in no printing?????? NOPE router replaced with same ip range everyone will still print.

                Setting a static ipaddress for printers is basic networking 101, However setting a reservation IS NOT within YOUR scope of work.
                I am sticking to the main body as you describe it., and in a small office in most cases I AM the IT tech, even if they have a contract for IT support from a third party. My concern and focus is to get "my" customer up and running and eliminating any future problems. Touching a customer's router does NOT mean you own it, I have no idea where you got that wild ass assumption from? If you had actually read my original post I did not say router failure, I said power failure, not router failure! It is very obvious that you do not have an understanding of DHCP, static IP addresses and reservations. Glad you do not work for me! Goodbye, you are gone.

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                • bsm2
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                  #23
                  Re: FS-2100DN network question

                  Originally posted by Santander
                  I am sticking to the main body as you describe it., and in a small office in most cases I AM the IT tech, even if they have a contract for IT support from a third party. My concern and focus is to get "my" customer up and running and eliminating any future problems. Touching a customer's router does NOT mean you own it, I have no idea where you got that wild ass assumption from? If you had actually read my original post I did not say router failure, I said power failure, not router failure! It is very obvious that you do not have an understanding of DHCP, static IP addresses and reservations. Glad you do not work for me! Goodbye, you are gone.


                  Stick to main body young jedi and get some network training you need it.
                  Every Kyocera for the last 20 years training setup has basic printer install and setup. Not router reservations.
                  Last edited by bsm2; 08-14-2019, 02:46 AM.

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