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  • Doug James
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    [Misc] TA 3050 3550ci Fuser Belt (UFR) from Katun

    Has anyone tried to use the Fuser Belt from Katun. Does it work on the Higher speed machines as you can get these elsewhere that work on them all. Hoping to get some feed back Thanks so much !!!
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    Re: TA 3050 3550ci Fuser Belt (UFR) from Katun

    Originally posted by Doug James
    Has anyone tried to use the Fuser Belt from Katun. Does it work on the Higher speed machines as you can get these elsewhere that work on them all. Hoping to get some feed back Thanks so much !!!

    I have not used this particular item from Katan. However, Katun is one of the leaders in aftermarket parts and supplies and I've had a lot of success with them over the past 20-years.

    My approach to using aftermarket parts & supplies is to always test it out thoroughly in-shop before ever using them in a customer's machine. Make sure if a fuser is rated for 300k that it actually lasts that long or at least close to it. That way you can have piece of mind when you do put it in a customer's machine. I would never use my customer's machine as a test vehicle for an item that I know nothing about.

    Katun has been in business for 40-years with $70-million in annual sales. They must be doing something right.

    My -2 cents.
    Last edited by BillyCarpenter; 10-12-2020, 09:01 PM.
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    • Phil B.
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      Re: TA 3050 3550ci Fuser Belt (UFR) from Katun

      never liked the parts from katun... early days even their toner sucked.

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      • craigster
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        Re: TA 3050 3550ci Fuser Belt (UFR) from Katun

        That fuser was not made to rebuild, life would suck if you tried. Bite the bullet and order a new one.

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        • BillyCarpenter
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          Originally posted by craigster
          That fuser was not made to rebuild, life would suck if you tried. Bite the bullet and order a new one.
          This is true. I've never even attempted to rebuild one of these. It's looks like a real bitch of a process if I would have wanted to.
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          • Doug James
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            Re: TA 3050 3550ci Fuser Belt (UFR) from Katun

            Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
            I have not used this particular item from Katan. However, Katun is one of the leaders in aftermarket parts and supplies and I've had a lot of success with them over the past 20-years.

            My approach to using aftermarket parts & supplies is to always test it out thoroughly in-shop before ever using them in a customer's machine. Make sure if a fuser is rated for 300k that it actually lasts that long or at least close to it. That way you can have piece of mind when you do put it in a customer's machine. I would never use my customer's machine as a test vehicle for an item that I know nothing about.

            Katun has been in business for 40-years with $70-million in annual sales. They must be doing something right.

            My -2 cents.
            Sure appreciate your 2 cents... I am the same way with them, a big fan...

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            • Doug James
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              Re: TA 3050 3550ci Fuser Belt (UFR) from Katun

              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
              This is true. I've never even attempted to rebuild one of these. It's looks like a real bitch of a process if I would have wanted to.
              True Story...

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              • BillyCarpenter
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                Originally posted by Doug James
                Sure appreciate your 2 cents... I am the same way with them, a big fan...

                OEM's preach using ONLY OEM parts and supplies. It is drilled in the heads of Authorized dealers & technicians. When I was a new tech I was indoctrinated into believing that all aftermarket parts and supplies were garbage. And I believed it.

                There's a reason that OEM's preach this philosophy. Why? Because they make more money on parts & supplies than they do selling actual machines. Of course OEM's don't want anyone buying after-market parts and supplies.

                It was years later after I went into business myself and actually experimented with aftermarkets parts and supplies that I learned the truth.

                Think about it.

                Ever talked to a GM or Ford mechanic? Many will tell you that aftermarket parts are crap. That's not true either.

                In the aftermarket world, there are good and the bad.

                I prefer to do my own research and take the guess work out of it.

                Because there are many aftermarket supplies that are crap, it's sullied the reputation of the aftermarket world in general. A tech will decide to try an aftermarket part or supply for the first time and it doesn't work and then they're convinced that it's all crap. I call this CONFIRMATION BIAS.
                Last edited by BillyCarpenter; 10-12-2020, 10:43 PM.
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                • charge leak
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                  #9
                  Re: TA 3050 3550ci Fuser Belt (UFR) from Katun

                  I have rebuilt both fusers with Katun belts, takes about 1.5 to 2 hrs, I haven't had a problem with any rebuild yet.

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                  • Doug James
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                    Originally posted by charge leak
                    I have rebuilt both fusers with Katun belts, takes about 1.5 to 2 hrs, I haven't had a problem with any rebuild yet.
                    Appreciate ya !! I have rebuilt a few and had problems with one but I think it was more my fault. Katun has a video of the rebuild and is great !!!
                    Kyocera Mita Taskalfa 3050 CI-series Fuser Belt Installation Instructions Video - YouTube

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                    • BillyCarpenter
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                      Originally posted by Doug James
                      Appreciate ya !! I have rebuilt a few and had problems with one but I think it was more my fault. Katun has a video of the rebuild and is great !!!
                      Kyocera Mita Taskalfa 3050 CI-series Fuser Belt Installation Instructions Video - YouTube

                      Thanks for sharing. I've got to try it.
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                      • jmaister
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                        Re: TA 3050 3550ci Fuser Belt (UFR) from Katun

                        Less than 50k you are gonna get out of rebuild fuser for these.

                        Kyocera coulntd get their fuser alignment right from factory, bearing always fail prematurely vs claimed.

                        The process of rebuilding will change the stress balance on the rollers.

                        If you are in the bind, as we were, but you are starting a vicious cycle...your boss will find out you can, and soon he will ask if you rebuild others. And then you will find you will have less time for more important clients, and eventually, cut into your personal time.
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                        • bcopier2815
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                          #13
                          Re: TA 3050 3550ci Fuser Belt (UFR) from Katun

                          Originally posted by charge leak
                          I have rebuilt both fusers with Katun belts, takes about 1.5 to 2 hrs, I haven't had a problem with any rebuild yet.
                          So they work in the faster 4550's?
                          asking for a friend

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                          • blackcat4866
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                            Re: TA 3050 3550ci Fuser Belt (UFR) from Katun

                            When VoyagerE's were the rage, and they were coming out with fuser updates every week, I was saving the cores and swapping around components to rebuild them, at least to get to the PM kit. It took 2 hours and (3) fusers to make (1) usable one ... with a lot of practice. There were (9) items to watch on the VoyagerE fuser:

                            Exit guide front (warp)
                            Exit guide rear (warp or cracks by the return spring)
                            Teflon coated inlet guide (cracks)
                            Belt separation guide (surface damage)
                            Heat belt (coating)
                            Foam roller shafts and bearing wear
                            Front fuser cover (broken latches)
                            Worn thermostats

                            I haven't had the pleasure of rebuilding an Alphard fuser. =^..^=
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                            • Doug James
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                              Re: TA 3050 3550ci Fuser Belt (UFR) from Katun

                              Originally posted by bcopier2815
                              So they work in the faster 4550's?
                              asking for a friend
                              lol... Tell your friend that I personally didn't have success with 4550 although I have had success with 3550 and lower. Hard to know if technician error (me) or not...

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