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  • BillyCarpenter
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    TA-3551ci: C6950 error code

    Just got a call from a local church (yes, on Sunday.) and the machine has a C6950 error code.

    The manual says it can be one of 4 PWBs:

    1. Power Source Board
    2. Feed PWB
    3. Fuser IH Board
    4. Engine PWB

    Any insight would be appreciated.

    Thanks.
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  • blackcat4866
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    Re: TA-3551ci: C6950 error code

    This is the one time I came across the C6950:

    "C6950". After attempting firmware machine remains locked in a firmware error "IH firmware 0801", and "Scan 0801", even when powered on in normal mode.

    23.9vdc is absent at YC12 pins 1, 2, & 3 on the low voltage power supply. 5vdc is present at pin 4, & ground at pins 5, 6, 7, & 8. DSPF PWB is not properly fitted to the Main PWB.

    Re-seat DSPF PWB. Replace Low Voltage Power Supply (302N494081). Rename firmware file [DL_CTRL.2N4] to [KM_EMRG.2N4], and load firmware (emergency firmware load).
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    • BillyCarpenter
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      Re: TA-3551ci: C6950 error code

      Originally posted by blackcat4866
      This is the one time I came across the C6950:

      "C6950". After attempting firmware machine remains locked in a firmware error "IH firmware 0801", and "Scan 0801", even when powered on in normal mode.

      23.9vdc is absent at YC12 pins 1, 2, & 3 on the low voltage power supply. 5vdc is present at pin 4, & ground at pins 5, 6, 7, & 8. DSPF PWB is not properly fitted to the Main PWB.

      Re-seat DSPF PWB. Replace Low Voltage Power Supply (302N494081). Rename firmware file [DL_CTRL.2N4] to [KM_EMRG.2N4], and load firmware (emergency firmware load).

      Dude, you never cease to impress me. So all I need to do is rename the firmware and that's considered emergency firmware?
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      • blackcat4866
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        Yes, exactly. =^..^=
        If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
        1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
        2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
        3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
        4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
        5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

        blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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        • copiertec
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          Re: TA-3551ci: C6950 error code

          The old style LV PWB are notorious for this failure. Pull off the back cover and see if it has the old style pwb, it has the bottom right cut out, almost like an upside down L cut out. If its the old style you need to replace it.
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          • copiertec
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            Re: TA-3551ci: C6950 error code

            Just replace the malfunctioning pwb with an old repaired LV PWB, because the holder plates are different for the new updated LV PWB, order it from Hytec.

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            • BillyCarpenter
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              Re: TA-3551ci: C6950 error code

              Originally posted by copiertec
              The old style LV PWB are notorious for this failure. Pull off the back cover and see if it has the old style pwb, it has the bottom right cut out, almost like an upside down L cut out. If its the old style you need to replace it.
              That's very helpful. Thanks.
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              • copiertec
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                Re: TA-3551ci: C6950 error code

                here is another bulletin on the 6950 error that shows the old style and the new style next to each other.
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                • BillyCarpenter
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                  Originally posted by copiertec
                  here is another bulletin on the 6950 error that shows the old style and the new style next to each other.
                  I see what you're talking about with the cut out on the right lower side. Thanks again.
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                  • KYO_OEM
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                    Re: TA-3551ci: C6950 error code

                    @Billy
                    see additional KDC info regarding C6950.
                    @blackcat and others
                    you also can use special FW upgrade procedure to eleminate "stuck in FW upgrade".
                    By this procedure you can delete the "FW error flag" and get back original error screen without "FW error****, 0801"
                    e.g.
                    1. FW upgrade during C6950/ F040 error message
                    2. system stucks in "error IH pwb, 0801", "mail bin error, 0801" or else...
                    3. upgrading from CTRL(main), ENG(engine) + Panl(panel) only
                    4. C6950/ F040 error message again, no more stuck in FW error after restart
                    5. Exchange from low voltage pwb
                    6. running complete FW upgrade without ES_Skip.on file
                    7. Done, system repaired, no more error.
                    See enclosed sample leaflet.
                    (Also works on other systems like Alphard 1, Mercury, Tomcat, but won`t work on Iris series, because "FW error flag" would stored on SSD PWB instead of HDD or operation panel!!!)
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                    • BillyCarpenter
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                      Re: TA-3551ci: C6950 error code

                      Originally posted by KYO_OEM
                      @Billy
                      see additional KDC info regarding C6950.
                      @blackcat and others
                      you also can use special FW upgrade procedure to eleminate "stuck in FW upgrade".
                      By this procedure you can delete the "FW error flag" and get back original error screen without "FW error****, 0801"
                      e.g.
                      1. FW upgrade during C6950/ F040 error message
                      2. system stucks in "error IH pwb, 0801", "mail bin error, 0801" or else...
                      3. upgrading from CTRL(main), ENG(engine) + Panl(panel) only
                      4. C6950/ F040 error message again, no more stuck in FW error after restart
                      5. Exchange from low voltage pwb
                      6. running complete FW upgrade without ES_Skip.on file
                      7. Done, system repaired, no more error.
                      See enclosed sample leaflet.
                      (Also works on other systems like Alphard 1, Mercury, Tomcat, but won`t work on Iris series, because "FW error flag" would stored on SSD PWB instead of HDD or operation panel!!!)

                      Great stuff, KYO.

                      Thank you.
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                      • BillyCarpenter
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                        Re: TA-3551ci: C6950 error code

                        I went out to the church today and the problem was indeed a bad Low Power Board. I replaced it and the machine booted up and worked like a charm. I didn't need to run the emergency firmware. I was kind of disappointed about that. I had it ready to go, though.


                        Thanks to everyone in this thread who helped me out. It's easy when I'm given the answer to the test. Thanks again.
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                        • copiertec
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                          Re: TA-3551ci: C6950 error code

                          Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                          I went out to the church today and the problem was indeed a bad Low Power Board. I replaced it and the machine booted up and worked like a charm. I didn't need to run the emergency firmware. I was kind of disappointed about that. I had it ready to go, though.


                          Thanks to everyone in this thread who helped me out. It's easy when I'm given the answer to the test. Thanks again.
                          That's what we are all here for, to help one another out. Glad you fixed it.

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                          • qtech
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                            Re: TA-3551ci: C6950 error code

                            Yes, indeed, thanks to all. I had my first C6950 on a 4550ci last week (older LVPS) and replaced it...machine good as new. Great forum here, gotta make another contribution to the cause.
                            Cheers,
                            Chris

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                            • Doug James
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                              Re: TA-3551ci: C6950 error code

                              Again THANKS So Much for this !!! This has answered a huge problem I have been having !!!

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