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  • copier tech
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    • Jan 2014
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    #16
    Re: C2790 - 3551ci

    Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
    I have it narrowed to a couple of things.


    There is no binding with the transfer belt itself.

    There is no binding in the transfer drive section.


    There is a clicking noise when the machine is booted and does its diagnostics and I get the C2790 code.

    One of 2 things is happening. Either the drive motor for the transfer belt it going bad or the transfer belt guide is worn like blackcat said and the gears aren't engaging properly. But when I put the transfer belt in the gears look to be engaged perfectly, but who knows what's happening when the motor starts turning and I can't find a way to view the belt under normal operation.


    The drive motor for the transfer belt is a bitch to take off so I'm gonna install another transfer but first but I think that's pissing in the wind. We shall see....
    Your error relates to the Intermediate transfer belt skew correction motor. Nothing to do with the belt drive.

    In a previous post you say you've tried anther transfer belt!?
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    • BillyCarpenter
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      #17
      Re: C2790 - 3551ci

      Originally posted by copier tech
      Your error relates to the Intermediate transfer belt skew correction motor. Nothing to do with the belt drive.

      In a previous post you say you've tried anther transfer belt!?

      I did try another belt. It was a used one. I'm gonna try another one that I know is good.

      Is the skew motor on the transfer unit itself?
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      • tsbservice
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        • May 2007
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        #18
        Re: C2790 - 3551ci

        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
        I did try another belt. It was a used one. I'm gonna try another one that I know is good.

        Is the skew motor on the transfer unit itself?
        It looks like it's.
        Kyocera TASKalfa 3551ci Transfer Belt Assembly, Genuine (M6171)
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        • blackcat4866
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          #19
          Re: C2790 - 3551ci

          Yes, inside the center of the belt assy. =^..^=
          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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          • BillyCarpenter
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            #20
            Re: C2790 - 3551ci

            I changed the belt and still have the code.
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            • tsbservice
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              #21
              Re: C2790 - 3551ci

              Does this belt unit has some type of wirings connector to the main body? If so I would carefully check this connector machine's side for any debris, paper pieces, bent pins etc.
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              • BillyCarpenter
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                #22
                Re: C2790 - 3551ci

                Originally posted by tsbservice
                Does this belt unit has some type of wirings connector to the main body? If so I would carefully check this connector machine's side for any debris, paper pieces, bent pins etc.

                Yes it has a large connector on the rear from with a bunch of very small pins. I looked at it thru a magnifying glass and saw no problem but it's kind of hard to see. I just took another one off a parts machine and I'm gonna replace. I need to take a long break first and I'll post the results.
                Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                • Hose1cook
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                  • Jun 2008
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                  #23
                  Re: C2790 - 3551ci

                  Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                  so I pulled the cover off the magenta laser to clean the slit glass. When I put everything back together, that's when I got the code.
                  Take a look at this:
                  Attached Files

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                  • copier tech
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                    #24
                    Re: C2790 - 3551ci

                    Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                    I did try another belt. It was a used one. I'm gonna try another one that I know is good.

                    Is the skew motor on the transfer unit itself?

                    You’re asking this question now!?

                    Have you read the service manual & looked up your error code & possible solutions?
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                    • tsbservice
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                      #25
                      Re: C2790 - 3551ci

                      Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                      Yes it has a large connector on the rear from with a bunch of very small pins. I looked at it thru a magnifying glass and saw no problem but it's kind of hard to see. I just took another one off a parts machine and I'm gonna replace. I need to take a long break first and I'll post the results.
                      Blow this connector with canned air to be sure it's clear. The fact you've put second belt unit and it still error codes same fault exclude ITB though. Good luck.
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                      • blackcat4866
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                        #26
                        Re: C2790 - 3551ci

                        Originally posted by Hose1cook
                        Take a look at this:
                        Who'd have thought?

                        Could you have missed a connector to the LSU cleaner motor? =^..^=
                        If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                        1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                        2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                        3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                        4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                        5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                        blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                        • BillyCarpenter
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                          #27
                          Re: C2790 - 3551ci


                          Like I said, I tried another belt as it's the first thing I did. I just tried a 3rd belt that come straight out of a working machine. I didn't work, either.


                          However, I just took another look at the connector on the rear frame and it appears there's a broken pin on the top right.
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                          • tsbservice
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                            #28
                            Re: C2790 - 3551ci

                            Originally posted by Hose1cook
                            Take a look at this:
                            Just wow...what a trap! Very detailed bulletin. I'm starting to like Kyoceras.
                            A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
                            Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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                            • copier tech
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                              #29
                              Re: C2790 - 3551ci

                              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                              Like I said, I tried another belt as it's the first thing I did. I just tried a 3rd belt that come straight out of a working machine. I didn't work, either.


                              However, I just took another look at the connector on the rear frame and it appears there's a broken pin on the top right.
                              You also said you checked this in your first post!

                              You really did drag this fix out.
                              Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                              For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

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                              • BillyCarpenter
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                                #30
                                Re: C2790 - 3551ci

                                Originally posted by copier tech
                                You also said you checked this in your first post!

                                You really did drag this fix out.

                                If I did drag it out it wasn't on purpose. I read the manual from the beginning but it was hard to tell if the skew motor was part of the transfer unit or on the rear from. I figured it was on the transfer unit which is why I replaced the transfer belt first. Again, my apologies for the confusion.
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