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  • blackcat4866
    Master Of The Obvious

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    #16
    Re: Kyocera Training

    Very few techs carry any kind of a meter anymore. I start the conversation with: "set your VOM to DC volts, 0-50v range ... "
    The answer: " ... meter?"

    It might be a lost art. =^..^=
    Last edited by blackcat4866; 03-25-2023, 02:23 PM.
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    • BillyCarpenter
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      #17
      Re: Kyocera Training

      Originally posted by blackcat4866
      Very few techs carry any king of a meter anymore. I start the conversation with: "set your VOM to DC volts, 0-50v range ... "
      The answer: " ... meter?"

      It might be a lost art. =^..^=


      Really? I can't imagine not carrying or using a meter. I also like using a logic probe...although I don't have one at the moment. It comes in handy depending on what you're working on.
      Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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      • copykat93
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        #18
        Re: Kyocera Training

        I also went to Mita school in 1988 in Dallas Texas, Kevin was my teacher/trainer at the 2-week school I attended. Scariest time of my life at 21 years old, first time flying on an airplane from Pa to Texas all by myself and once I got to the training school, made a few friends and Kevin was a very cool trainer. The thing I always thought was the weirdest was wearing a tie while working on these machines, while I was at the training school, one of the texts got his tie caught in the chain drive, we were allowed to remove our ties after that, Lol. I went to a couple Fujitsu thermal fax machine training schools in Danbury Connecticut as well.

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        • BillyCarpenter
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          #19
          Re: Kyocera Training

          I'm done with the prerequisites and now training on the 6053-4003i. Since we have many great Kyocera techs on this forum, I'm gonna take advantage of all the experience and knowledge.


          Here's my first question. The new DP-7130 comes with a double-feed sensor and sends a sonic signal thru the paper. If more than one sheet is fed the sonic signal will be weaker @ the receiver. The sensitivity of the sensor can be adjusted by the tech. The sensor can be turned on/off.


          Question: What's your opinion on this DFP sensor? Good? Bad? Indifferent?
          Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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          • bsm2
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            • Feb 2008
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            #20
            Re: Kyocera Training

            Best advice you'll ever get

            if it works DFW

            Don't Fuck with IT

            Lots of setting adjustments 99.99 its not an adjustment its a bad part.

            Hopefully that saves us all from what did you learn today
            Last edited by bsm2; 03-26-2023, 02:00 AM.

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            • JR2ALTA
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              #21
              Re: Kyocera Training

              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
              A big part of my learning the new Kyocera color copiers has come from members on this site. And the biggest part of that has come from 2 members in particular: blackcat and KYO_OEM. I think that's mainly because they've both tolerated me asking a lot questions. This has carried me along way...along with my own studying. However, it's not like I can ask every question that pops up because that would be asking too much.


              I'm going somewhere with this so bear with me.


              Now that I have access to real training via KDA central website, a lot of gaps are being filled in. For instance: THe CASS System. I've heard this talked about but wasn't 100% clear on exactly how it worked. I'm clear on it now. This excites me to no end.


              Back to training...
              I admit I tend to breeze through online training, but I did make it to the Kyocera Regional competition 2 years ago... I'm stumped, what is the "CASS System"?

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              • BillyCarpenter
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                #22
                Re: Kyocera Training

                Originally posted by JR2ALTA
                I admit I tend to breeze through online training, but I did make it to the Kyocera Regional competition 2 years ago... I'm stumped, what is the "CASS System"?

                The Cass System is a method used by Kyocera to keep the carrier fresh thus extending the life of the developer. This is accomplished by the toner being infused with a small amount new carrier that is added to the DV unit and the old/worn carrier is discharged to the waste toner bottle via centrifugal force.





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                • BillyCarpenter
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                  #23
                  Re: Kyocera Training

                  Originally posted by bsm2
                  Best advice you'll ever get

                  if it works DFW

                  Don't Fuck with IT

                  Lots of setting adjustments 99.99 its not an adjustment its a bad part.

                  Hopefully that saves us all from what did you learn today

                  I often wonder if you know how to work on these machines. I say that because reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, son. I didn't ask whether or not I should adjust the sensor. I asked for an opinion on this new feature for the 3-series. Is it an improvement? Does it work as intended? Or is it problematic? Obviously, you have no idea so let someone else opine.
                  Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                  • bsm2
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                    #24
                    Re: Kyocera Training

                    Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                    I often wonder if you know how to work on these machines. I say that because reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, son. I didn't ask whether or not I should adjust the sensor. I asked for an opinion on this new feature for the 3-series. Is it an improvement? Does it work as intended? Or is it problematic? Obviously, you have no idea so let someone else opine.
                    40 plus years on Kyocera equip as I worked for the Largest dealer in USA

                    No it's not problematic
                    Kyocera doesn't add shit to machines unless it works

                    Your a Rookie everything is amazing to YOU.

                    Learn your sims and trouble codes and jam codes

                    Enjoy the free training and support you now have and don't be afraid to call the hotline.

                    PS if it works DFW
                    Last edited by bsm2; 03-26-2023, 05:20 PM.

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                    • BillyCarpenter
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                      #25
                      Re: Kyocera Training

                      Originally posted by bsm2
                      40 plus years on Kyocera equip as I worked for the Largest dealer in USA

                      No it's not problematic
                      Kyocera doesn't add shit to machines unless it works


                      You're a stone cold idiot and you've left no doubt in my mind that you don't know what you're talking about.


                      Kyocera fucks up all the time. That's why they come out with updates to fix their fuckups.

                      You're much too smart for me. Move along.
                      Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                      • bsm2
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                        #26
                        Re: Kyocera Training

                        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                        You're a stone cold idiot and you've left no doubt in my mind that you don't know what you're talking about.


                        Kyocera fucks up all the time. That's why they come out with updates to fix their fuckups.

                        You're much too smart for me. Move along.
                        Firmware fixes are worldwide
                        As Kyocera fixes include problems you may never see in the USA

                        Glad you have so much faith in Kyocera

                        Your a Rookie your opinion of me is irrelevant
                        Unfortunately some Rookies always think there smarter than there teacher or experience techs apparently that is clearly your problem

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                        • BillyCarpenter
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                          #27
                          Re: Kyocera Training

                          Originally posted by bsm2
                          Firmware fixes are worldwide

                          Unfortunately some Rookies always think there smarter than there teacher or experience techs apparently that is clearly your problem

                          Kyocera doesn't make mistakes. Got it.

                          LOL.
                          Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                          • bsm2
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                            #28
                            Re: Kyocera Training

                            Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                            LOL.
                            Hilarious yes your posts are

                            Aleast you know how a paper tray works now

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                            • KYO_OEM
                              Senior Tech

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                              • Aug 2011
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                              #29
                              Re: Kyocera Training

                              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                              I'm done with the prerequisites and now training on the 6053-4003i. Since we have many great Kyocera techs on this forum, I'm gonna take advantage of all the experience and knowledge.


                              Here's my first question. The new DP-7130 comes with a double-feed sensor and sends a sonic signal thru the paper. If more than one sheet is fed the sonic signal will be weaker @ the receiver. The sensitivity of the sensor can be adjusted by the tech. The sensor can be turned on/off.


                              Question: What's your opinion on this DFP sensor? Good? Bad? Indifferent?
                              Hello Billy,


                              I think you are asking for DP-7160/ 70 instead of DP-7130
                              we have had similar sensor on Mercury series in past and finally KYO disabled working, because of high failure rate.
                              At the moment we have a lot of problems with DP-7160/ DP-7170 because of multi paper feeding/ paper jams.
                              TORQUE LIMITER FEED_303JX07401 makes trouble, but no trouble with this multi feed sensor
                              Up to yet it seems to work fine
                              Multi Feed.JPG

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                              • BillyCarpenter
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                                #30
                                Re: Kyocera Training

                                Originally posted by KYO_OEM
                                Hello Billy,


                                I think you are asking for DP-7160/ 70 instead of DP-7130
                                we have had similar sensor on Mercury series in past and finally KYO disabled working, because of high failure rate.
                                At the moment we have a lot of problems with DP-7160/ DP-7170 because of multi paper feeding/ paper jams.
                                TORQUE LIMITER FEED_303JX07401 makes trouble, but no trouble with this multi feed sensor
                                Up to yet it seems to work fine
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                                Thanks for the information. I thought the ultrasonic sensor sounded like a great improvement in theory and that seems to be the case. Thanks again.
                                Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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