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  • Tebow83
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • May 2009
    • 92

    #1

    KM5035 Noise

    Has anyone come across the noise in a 5035 when it get up to near the 1,000,000 mark??
    I put new clutches and gears on and greased the shafts (duplex unit and feed sections) and it quitened down well but came back a few weeks later. Does anyone know what the proper type of grease is used by kyocera as i cant seem to get it in any parts manuals.
    Cheers.
  • cboucher
    • May 2025

    #2
    Just a suggestion, but try using silicon oil (fuser oil) instead of grease. It lasts a lot longer than grease and is just as slippery. Less messy, too.

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    • Jimme

      #3
      Km-5035

      did you check the all the fans in the back of the machine?..The fans get dirt or warp and make noise sometimes or all the time. The vibration of the machine makes it move. You will only notice it when you unplug the machine if the fins are broken.

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      • Tebow83
        Technician

        50+ Posts
        • May 2009
        • 92

        #4
        Originally posted by Jimme
        did you check the all the fans in the back of the machine?..The fans get dirt or warp and make noise sometimes or all the time. The vibration of the machine makes it move. You will only notice it when you unplug the machine if the fins are broken.

        No its not coming from the fans. I replaced the duplex with a newer less volume machine and the noise was gone. Its coming from the gears on the duplex under the metal plate beside the clutch.

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        • Tebow83
          Technician

          50+ Posts
          • May 2009
          • 92

          #5
          Originally posted by cboucher
          Just a suggestion, but try using silicon oil (fuser oil) instead of grease. It lasts a lot longer than grease and is just as slippery. Less messy, too.
          I was looking at a new km5050, its nearly identicle and there is a thicker kind of grease on it. The stuff i used was automotive grease and it just dried up to quick.

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          • KyoceraChris
            Trusted Tech

            100+ Posts
            • Jun 2009
            • 112

            #6
            i've had that issue and had to follow up on a few techs for noise. It dose come from the main drive pak like you stated, try the kyocera temperature 78 type grease. If its a highpitch squeek i've incountered drum blades to be the cluprit..
            you gunna eat yo corn bread?!?

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            • Tebow83
              Technician

              50+ Posts
              • May 2009
              • 92

              #7
              Originally posted by KyoceraChris
              i've had that issue and had to follow up on a few techs for noise. It dose come from the main drive pak like you stated, try the kyocera temperature 78 type grease. If its a highpitch squeek i've incountered drum blades to be the cluprit..
              Cool, i will get my hands on that grease and try that. No its not the drum blade its a kinda hard to describe grinding noise. I was looking at the newer km5050 today and its greased so i presume through heavy use it wears off and causes the noise.

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              • vikingmita
                Trusted Tech

                100+ Posts
                • Nov 2008
                • 163

                #8
                changed vertical transport?

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                • Sayen's
                  Technician
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 20

                  #9
                  Service Bulletin #: 7610/ 2FG-0085 (Rev. 1)Model: FS-9120DN, FS-9130DN, FS-9520DN, FS-9530DN, KM-3035, KM-3530, KM-4035, KM-4050, KM-5035, KM-5050, Date: 07/03/2006Title: Measure for Abnormal Noise from Generating at "MIDDLE FEED UNIT"Affected Machine Serial #: <Temporary Measure>(The KM-3050/4050/5050 or FS-9130DN/9530DN are modified from initial mass production.) KM-3035: K3123026 ~ KM-4035: L3055285 ~ KM-5035: M3040968 ~ FS-9120DN: PPB6401941 ~ FS-9520DN: PPA6406556 ~<Permanent Measure> KM-3035: K3125063 ~ KM-4035: L3055476 ~ KM-5035: M3041166 ~ FS-9120DN: PPB6602141 ~ FS-9520DN: PPA6606981 ~ KM-3050: L3055476 ~ KM-4050: L3055476 ~ KM-5050: L3055476 ~ FS-9130DN: PPQ6600026 ~ FS-9530DN: PPP6600026 ~Field Measure: Please carry out the corrective measure as reported in Service Bulletin #7603/2FG-0084 if the problem occurs. (No particular problems are expected on the KM-3040/4050/5050 or FS-9130DN/9530DN as the "STOPPER GEAR 8-25" (No. 1) is added from initial mass production.)Please do not mix old and new parts when replacing the parts. Use old or new parts as a set.Details:
                  >>>Revised with addition of affected machine serial numbers. (Permanent Measure)



                  Ref. No. Old P/N New P/N Description Q'ty (Old/New) Intch S/P Temporary Measure

                  1 ---------- 2BL06990 STOPPER GEAR 8-25 -/1 -/o - Permanent Measure

                  2 2FG06082 2FG06083 HOUSING FEED 1/1 x/x - 3 2FG06150 2FG06151 MOUNT MID FEED DRIVE 1/1 x/x - 1 2BL06990 ---------- STOPPER GEAR 8-25 1/- x/- - Temporary measure
                  Due to slight variation in parts and/or assembly of MIDDLE FEED UNIT and Vertical Feed Unit, the Mount (No. 3) and Vertical Feed Gear (B) may interfere with each other, causing abnormal noise to generate. As a preventative measure, the following modifications are carried out.
                  Please note that there will be no installation compatibility between the new and old parts after this change.


                  [ Content of Change ]

                  The following measures are taken to prevent the Mount (No. 3) and Vertical Feed Gear (B) from interfering each other.

                  <Temporary Measure> - Except for KM-3050/4050/5050, FS-9130DN/9530DN that
                  are modified from initial mass production

                  1. A new Stopper (No. 1) is added to the Vertical Feed Unit to shift the position of
                  Vertical Feed Unit Gear (A, B) to the machine front section by 0.5mm.

                  <Permanent Measure>

                  1. Thickness (1.5mm) is added to the boss that secures Housing (No. 2) and Mount
                  (No. 3) to ensure that the Mount is positioned on the Count (A) by shifting the
                  position of Mount by 1.5mm to the machine rear section.

                  2. With the change 1 above, a new step (1.5mm) is added to the base of the Gear
                  installation pin on the Mount This will secure the original position of the Gear.

                  3. After the changes 1/2 above, the Stopper (No. 1) that was added as a temporary
                  measure is eliminated.



















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