Considering Copystar CS 500ci and CS 221...Looking for Opinions.

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  • blackcat4866
    Master Of The Obvious

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    • Jul 2007
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    #16
    I don't know about other dealers, but that's what we charge for color on maintenance contract. Yeah sure! That's reasonable.
    =^..^=
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    • ian
      Technician
      • Feb 2010
      • 12

      #17
      Originally posted by blackcat4866
      I don't know about other dealers, but that's what we charge for color on maintenance contract. Yeah sure! That's reasonable.
      =^..^=
      I'm a bit confused...you're saying that's what you charge, but then why the roll eyes?

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      • lorenrupe
        The Great Land

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        • Jan 2010
        • 57

        #18
        That is just how he signs most of his replies! I am sure that he did not mean anything by it! That is a decent rate though!
        Loren Rupe
        Valley Business Machines Inc.

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        • ian
          Technician
          • Feb 2010
          • 12

          #19
          Re: Considering Copystar CS 500ci and CS 221...Looking for Opinions.

          Hey guys, it's been a while. The copiers we leased (500ci and 221) a couple years back have worked out fine.

          Now I need a new unit for a different location. I received a proposal for a CS 3050ci. Since you guys steered me in the right direction last time I wanted to get your opinions on this model. Thanks again!

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          • bsm2
            IT Manager

            25,000+ Posts
            • Feb 2008
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            #20
            Re: Considering Copystar CS 500ci and CS 221...Looking for Opinions.

            get a Konica for color

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            • ian
              Technician
              • Feb 2010
              • 12

              #21
              Re: Considering Copystar CS 500ci and CS 221...Looking for Opinions.

              Originally posted by bsm2
              get a Konica for color
              Thanks...but I've been happy with the color performance of my previous Copystar unit. We don't really print that much in color anyway.

              I was just curious to see what the general thoughts were on the CS 3050ci.

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              • Zackuth
                Trusted Tech

                250+ Posts
                • Aug 2009
                • 448

                #22
                Re: Considering Copystar CS 500ci and CS 221...Looking for Opinions.

                We have got 8 of that series out in the field and have had no major problems.
                If at first you don't succeed, redefine success

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                • jmaister
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                  • Aug 2010
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                  #23
                  Re: Considering Copystar CS 500ci and CS 221...Looking for Opinions.

                  no matter the machine you choose, unless there are...of citrous flavor flav.

                  Its more of how good your techs are, if you have a awesome service depot you could still save face even with lemons.

                  lemons do pop up here and there, but the series you spoke of has been looked after. Please utilize Kyocera/Copystar online resource for troubles.

                  other than that, I like the 500ci's better than its predecessor.

                  Do the due maintenance and they'll last you the lease term to upgrade the client for something else.
                  Idling colour developers are not healthy developers.

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                  • ian
                    Technician
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 12

                    #24
                    Re: Considering Copystar CS 500ci and CS 221...Looking for Opinions.

                    Originally posted by jmaister
                    no matter the machine you choose, unless there are...of citrous flavor flav.

                    Its more of how good your techs are, if you have a awesome service depot you could still save face even with lemons.

                    lemons do pop up here and there, but the series you spoke of has been looked after. Please utilize Kyocera/Copystar online resource for troubles.

                    other than that, I like the 500ci's better than its predecessor.

                    Do the due maintenance and they'll last you the lease term to upgrade the client for something else.

                    Thanks...but again, I'm trying to find out what the general thoughts were on the CS 3050ci. Guess I should have started a new thread to prevent the confusion.

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                    • jmaister
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                      #25
                      Re: Considering Copystar CS 500ci and CS 221...Looking for Opinions.

                      3050Ci, and series that its part of is the best KM has to offer yet.

                      the frame of most pickup assembly is of "metal" and interchangeable. None of plastic crap stuff. And the gearing is helical to reduce noise, the teething is tighter for precise paper transport.

                      Scanner is been boosted for faster scanning, even with a reversing DP, its faster than Saturn(500ci).

                      Colour quality is the best so far, texture is nice and even, I've yet to see "few" T-belt line or any defect related to the charge or developer. Havent seen any actually tho there are cases out there.

                      The paper path has been re-thought as the original series has the finisher and fixer on the wrong side, together. The finisher chokes ventilation, and the fuser ages quicker. Plus the cover was on a hinge any uneven surface will have the finisher lightly tug the cover, hence the paper transport isnt snug and result in jam.

                      The old series was a huge fan of clutch in ..everywhere, blame it on old architecture and trying to make all the dime one could. This series has mostly motors, quieter, and more control over all.

                      The infamous "smudge" seems to have been contained with the new technology.


                      There is one thing I detest, waste toner bottle. They should have one with every black, and the shortage of it means reusing existing ones. Its not a clean job.


                      That's all I can think of atm.
                      Last edited by jmaister; 06-27-2012, 06:12 AM.
                      Idling colour developers are not healthy developers.

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                      • ian
                        Technician
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 12

                        #26
                        Re: Considering Copystar CS 500ci and CS 221...Looking for Opinions.

                        Originally posted by jmaister
                        3050Ci, and series that its part of is the best KM has to offer yet.

                        the frame of most pickup assembly is of "metal" and interchangeable. None of plastic crap stuff. And the gearing is helical to reduce noise, the teething is tighter for precise paper transport.

                        Scanner is been boosted for faster scanning, even with a reversing DP, its faster than Saturn(500ci).

                        Colour quality is the best so far, texture is nice and even, I've yet to see "few" T-belt line or any defect related to the charge or developer. Havent seen any actually tho there are cases out there.

                        The paper path has been re-thought as the original series has the finisher and fixer on the wrong side, together. The finisher chokes ventilation, and the fuser ages quicker. Plus the cover was on a hinge any uneven surface will have the finisher lightly tug the cover, hence the paper transport isnt snug and result in jam.

                        The old series was a huge fan of clutch in ..everywhere, blame it on old architecture and trying to make all the dime one could. This series has mostly motors, quieter, and more control over all.

                        The infamous "smudge" seems to have been contained with the new technology.


                        There is one thing I detest, waste toner bottle. They should have one with every black, and the shortage of it means reusing existing ones. Its not a clean job.


                        That's all I can think of atm.
                        Thank you for the information. Sounds like I should be happy with the 3050ci. Again, I appreciate you taking the time to pass along your thoughts.

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