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  • Tonerkiller
    Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • Oct 2012
    • 668

    #16
    Re: fuser grease

    Originally posted by Venom
    Hot roller bushings would always make knocking noises on Ricohs so grease was the only fix. I doubt anyone wants to grease fuser gears.
    I have never worked on Ricohs.

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    • copytech,mike
      CopyTech,MIKE

      250+ Posts
      • Jun 2014
      • 261

      #17
      Re: fuser grease

      Originally posted by peanut
      I work with mainly ricoh, savin, etc and I\'m looking for the best high temp grease with out a stench.
      NEVER use any grease of any sort on plastic drive gears and especially not if you have cluch's in the area. Factory only uses grease on plastic gears to make them quiet, problem is that it slowly finds its way into your cluch's and causes intermittent jamming with no known cure. You can spray the cluch's out with alcohol and it usually fixes it. You can also spray all that grease on the gears with alcohol and swap out your cluches. This problem usually is found inside drive units or drive gear box's with cluch's involved. NOTE: Some Canon production machines use heavy fuser units with metal gears wich require special grease. In this case, when in doubt, use Mobil 1 red synthetic or Molycoat grease. Some Copier manufactures in this case call for special grease that costs 100.00 per ounce! Again, in this case use Mobil 1 red. Super lube oil or Tri Flow does nothing. Remember, on Office type copiers, no plastic gear ever needs grease. -Mike Gingell of Advanced Copier Solutions. Maryland.

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      • copytech,mike
        CopyTech,MIKE

        250+ Posts
        • Jun 2014
        • 261

        #18
        Re: fuser grease

        Originally posted by philjessen
        Ricoh fuser bearing come from the factory packed with a fluorinated grease called Barrierta. If you mix any other type of grease with fluorinated grease they nullify each others lubrication properties. DuPont Krytox grease is a fluorinated grease completely compatible with Barrierta with an even wider operating temperature range. Available from Image Supply Service. Image Supply Service

        Phil
        Use Mobil 1 red and forget about Barrierta grease that's costs about 100.00 for an ounce. Also, never use any grease of any sort on plastic drive gears, it will find its way into your cluch's. Factory only uses it to make machines quiet. Its a disaster. Only production machines with steel gears need gease. They also don't have cluch's nearby.

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        • south_asia
          Junior Member
          • Jan 2015
          • 6

          #19
          Re: fuser grease

          Originally posted by peanut
          I work with mainly ricoh, savin, etc and I\'m looking for the best high temp grease with out a stench.
          You may try Chemplex grease for long lasting and high temperature. Its work well on all types of copiers.

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          • blackcat4866
            Master Of The Obvious

            Site Contributor
            10,000+ Posts
            • Jul 2007
            • 22997

            #20
            Re: fuser grease

            Originally posted by south_asia
            You may try Chemplex grease for long lasting and high temperature. Its work well on all types of copiers.

            You won't like Chemplex. It smokes and stinks like a bad running deisel truck. You'll have better results with Molycote HP500 or Uniflor 8172.
            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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            • copyman
              Owner / Technician

              Site Contributor
              2,500+ Posts
              • Sep 2005
              • 4623

              #21
              Re: fuser grease

              Originally posted by 10871087
              Which ever grease you use, make sure you slather it all over everything. Put on enough so that it can dry out in a month or so and turn into tar and cause all kinds of strange drive system drag problems. Unless you using something that comes in an aerosol can. If so, make sure you spray enough to coat the entire back of the machine and don\'t forget to hit all the clutches and the idlers in the exit area.

              Any old tech can clean, but only a stud tech can transform a well running machine into job security with a can of WD-40.

              Oh well, just my attempt at humor after a long Monday. :S
              That is whole idea of poster asking what grease to use so it don't dry out, etc. More important is if a grease will harm plastic gears which a lot will do !

              Molykote (spelling?) hi temp grease is what I use. It's doesn't dry out or harm plastic and better not for $40 a tube!

              Also use old clear fuser oil for noisy fuser bearings. Very minimal odor.

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              • south_asia
                Junior Member
                • Jan 2015
                • 6

                #22
                Re: fuser grease

                Originally posted by blackcat4866
                You won't like Chemplex. It smokes and stinks like a bad running deisel truck. You'll have better results with Molycote HP500 or Uniflor 8172.
                We like it using Chemplex 710 compare to others HP200/300/500. It doesnt have smell as you mention.
                We sometimes mix Chemplex 710 grease with HP grease too. It has own advantages and can try mix and use.

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                • copyman
                  Owner / Technician

                  Site Contributor
                  2,500+ Posts
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 4623

                  #23
                  Re: fuser grease

                  Originally posted by blackcat4866
                  You won't like Chemplex. It smokes and stinks like a bad running deisel truck. You'll have better results with Molycote HP500 or Uniflor 8172.
                  Agree, last time I used it thought I was running an old Lionel train set with that stinky smoke that comes out of engine smoke stack ha-ha

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                  • Gab
                    Senior Tech
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 668

                    #24
                    Re: fuser grease

                    i use black grease from cars. It is ok

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                    • davel
                      Technician

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 1094

                      #25
                      Re: fuser grease

                      Originally posted by Gab
                      i use black grease from cars. It is ok
                      No car grease is made to be used at fuser temperatures it will just burn off.

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                      • Tonerkiller
                        Senior Tech

                        500+ Posts
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 668

                        #26
                        Re: fuser grease

                        Do not use any grease on Kyoceras.

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