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  • Geo
    Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • Nov 2010
    • 662

    #1

    Is SMB scanning possible without login password.

    Hi All
    Is it possible to do SMB scanning to a XP P.C. not using a password? The customer refuses to allow me to set up a static password account on the P.C.
    I think pinpoint scan will work but they are CHEAP. Does anyone have a workaround for this one .
    Thanks
  • ruben
    The New Guy

    1,000+ Posts
    • Oct 2012
    • 1203

    #2
    Re: Is SMB scanning possible without login password.

    When setting up SMB scanning for other brands, even without a password you still would need to enter a username to authenticate to. You can find out the username from XP: Control Panel -> System -> Advanced -> User Profiles. It will usually display "computer name\username" or "domain name\username". Whatever is after the first backslash is what you would use, most brands allow you to enter a blank password, but as I am not familiar with this brand I cannot say for sure here.

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    • blackcat4866
      Master Of The Obvious

      Site Contributor
      10,000+ Posts
      • Jul 2007
      • 22927

      #3
      Re: Is SMB scanning possible without login password.

      I've been told that it's possible ... yet I insist on a valid username and password to avoid the situation that you're in. It always works with proper authentication and sharing. No guarantees otherwise.

      It saves a lot of wasted time and headaches. =^..^=
      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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      • Mr Spock
        Vulcan Inventor of Death

        1,000+ Posts
        • Aug 2006
        • 2064

        #4
        Re: Is SMB scanning possible without login password.

        yes if they are using advanced sharing
        not really if using the simple sharing

        and it also requires the copy machine to accept a username without a password.

        Under advanced sharing you can right click on folder>properties>share tab and add the local user to permissions and add "everyone" to full control then do the same under the security tab. Warning this is not a secure way to do it but it can work. This will not work on Vista, 7, or 8 machines.
        And Star Trek was just a tv show...yeah right!

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        • okirob
          Technician
          • Feb 2012
          • 26

          #5
          Re: Is SMB scanning possible without login password.

          depending on operating system you can right click on my computer, click on manage, click on users and add a new user and there you can add a user and password and have it running in the background.

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          • okirob
            Technician
            • Feb 2012
            • 26

            #6
            Re: Is SMB scanning possible without login password.

            It needs to be a pro version and not a home version

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            • Venom
              Technical/IT Support

              500+ Posts
              • Nov 2009
              • 765

              #7
              Re: Is SMB scanning possible without login password.

              Install scan file utility and you never need a password
              IBM, Mita, Konica Minolta, Ricoh, Kyocera, HyPAS, Canon, Oce, Samsung, HP, TEO IP PBX/Unified Communications, Comptia Network+ Comptia PDI+ Certifications

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              • RollingROARANDA
                Technician
                • Nov 2012
                • 72

                #8
                Re: Is SMB scanning possible without login password.

                Originally posted by Venom
                Install scan file utility and you never need a password

                I second that, I wouldnt waste my time with a guy whos all like "what are you doing to my computer?" haha

                I'd just burn him a cd with the drivers and the Scanner File utility, and give him the phone support treatment. I'd be like "Oh you got this then". haha

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                • Barış KURT
                  Technician
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 68

                  #9
                  Re: Is SMB scanning possible without login password.

                  scan to smb
                  1- "everyone full control" on shared folder
                  2- username is "user" on kyo command center
                  3- password is blank
                  try this.
                  sincerely
                  Black is Kyocera , Color is Gestetner.

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                  • RollingROARANDA
                    Technician
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 72

                    #10
                    Re: Is SMB scanning possible without login password.

                    I use a registry tweak that hides a "copier" account from the Welcome Screen.. That way its out of sight, out of mind for the customer, and all they see is that the scans work every time, whether they decide to change their own passwords or not.. Do you guys think thats a bad idea? I usually dont tell the customer what Im doing to setup their scanning. I just show them the final product...

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                    • sgcopiertech

                      #11
                      Re: Is SMB scanning possible without login password.

                      Originally posted by RollingROARANDA
                      I use a registry tweak that hides a "copier" account from the Welcome Screen.. That way its out of sight, out of mind for the customer, and all they see is that the scans work every time, whether they decide to change their own passwords or not.. Do you guys think thats a bad idea? I usually dont tell the customer what Im doing to setup their scanning. I just show them the final product...
                      I thinks it's a bad idea, even thou we ourselves know that it's perfectly fine. some customer might blame you if anything happened on their computer and found out a user account "copier" was installed without their knowledge. But I also believe that creating a separate account for the copier scanning is one of the best way to prevent headaches

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                      • knightfall
                        Senior Tech

                        500+ Posts
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 633

                        #12
                        Re: Is SMB scanning possible without login password.

                        I think that if you do go ahead and setup without password that the customer is made aware that the folder is open to anyone on the network and it was not advisable to leave this security flaw open, that is an as is setup so there can not be a later service call for free or where they say well your company set it up or your technician did something that allowed a hacker into our network so in your service report you list no password authentication for scan setup as "per customers name" which is not advisable and we are not held responsible for any damages that this may cause.
                        Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please.

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                        • MFPTech
                          Trusted Tech

                          250+ Posts
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 486

                          #13
                          Re: Is SMB scanning possible without login password.

                          Originally posted by Geo
                          Hi All
                          Is it possible to do SMB scanning to a XP P.C. not using a password? The customer refuses to allow me to set up a static password account on the P.C.
                          I think pinpoint scan will work but they are CHEAP. Does anyone have a workaround for this one .
                          Thanks
                          You can ask the customer to enter the user name and password that (s)he uses to log on the PC or you can try "Administrator".

                          Hope this helps.

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                          • JR2ALTA
                            Service Manager

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                            • Feb 2010
                            • 2028

                            #14
                            That registry tweak is totally out of line.

                            Not that you would...but say you made "copier" an admin. Now you have full remote access to their system.

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                            • MFPTech
                              Trusted Tech

                              250+ Posts
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 486

                              #15
                              Re: Is SMB scanning possible without login password.

                              Originally posted by JR2ALTA
                              That registry tweak is totally out of line.

                              Not that you would...but say you made "copier" an admin. Now you have full remote access to their system.
                              In XP Home version the copier may use the Administrator account to be able to scan. This is not going to compromise and security level, not to mention that XP Home is not a secure OS anyway and it is not supposed to be used in business environment either.

                              Remember that the copier does not become an Administrator by using the Administrator account to simply "write" on a "specific shared folder". Besides, the copier is a customer's network device, owned and controlled by the customer, it's not a zombie controlled by the copier company.

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