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  • fshead
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    KM-C2525 black dev leaking question.

    i have one KM-C2525 in the field that is dropping dev.black.
    do you rebuild them or buy new?
    if new anyone can give me the part number as i only have the service one.
    .thnx in advance
  • jhalfhide
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    #2
    Re: KM-C2525 black dev leaking question.

    You can only order the dev, or the gears of they are all that has gone wrong. No rebuild. Dev assembly (K) is 302FZ93113


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    • fshead
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      #3
      Re: KM-C2525 black dev leaking question.

      thnx.

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      • fshead
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        Re: KM-C2525 black dev leaking question.

        Originally posted by jhalfhide
        You can only order the dev, or the gears of they are all that has gone wrong. No rebuild. Dev assembly (K) is 302FZ93113


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        if i can find a color unit cheaper can i make it work as the black dev unit?

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        • jhalfhide
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          Re: KM-C2525 black dev leaking question.

          No, drums may be swapped between colours but dev units contain the colour developer powder so no way to change the colour

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          • fshead
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            Re: KM-C2525 black dev leaking question.

            Originally posted by jhalfhide
            No, drums may be swapped between colours but dev units contain the colour developer powder so no way to change the colour
            i understood i would need the black dev and if i emptied the yel dev powder i would buy a bag/bottle of black developer powder..
            is developer powder available seperately?
            thnx

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            • jhalfhide
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              Re: KM-C2525 black dev leaking question.

              No, powder is not separate on this model. Kyocera machines are mostly just replaceable units. If you tried anyway, you'd end up contaminating your developer. Just get the black dev ordered.


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              • blackcat4866
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                #8
                Re: KM-C2525 black dev leaking question.

                Originally posted by fshead
                if i can find a color unit cheaper can i make it work as the black dev unit?
                If it was just the color of the toner in the developer, perhaps you could deplete the yellow and let it replenish with black. Within 150 pages it would completely transition. The second and more important problem is that the yellow dev unit is chipped to be yellow, and will show as yellow unit installed in a black port. =^..^=
                If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                • fshead
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                  Re: KM-C2525 black dev leaking question.

                  Originally posted by blackcat4866
                  If it was just the color of the toner in the developer, perhaps you could deplete the yellow and let it replenish with black. Within 150 pages it would completely transition. The second and more important problem is that the yellow dev unit is chipped to be yellow, and will show as yellow unit installed in a black port. =^..^=
                  thnx
                  regarding the yellow chip on the dev unit,can i swap the chip from the leaking unit?

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                  • jhalfhide
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                    Re: KM-C2525 black dev leaking question.

                    Originally posted by fshead
                    thnx
                    regarding the yellow chip on the dev unit,can i swap the chip from the leaking unit?
                    I can't think of a surface mounted chip.

                    This all seems like far too much effort to me. The amount of time you've spent on here posting questions about it alone is probably not worth the difference. How much is the price difference between this 'cheap' yellow dev, and a black dev? Then work in the price of separate black dev powder (sourced elsewhere as not possible from Kyocera) and then add your time spent trying to make a yellow dev, black. Remember that your time is valuable and he customer and employer should see that.

                    Is this a second hand yellow dev you have spare?


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                    • fshead
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                      Re: KM-C2525 black dev leaking question.

                      Originally posted by jhalfhide
                      I can't think of a surface mounted chip.

                      This all seems like far too much effort to me. The amount of time you've spent on here posting questions about it alone is probably not worth the difference. How much is the price difference between this 'cheap' yellow dev, and a black dev? Then work in the price of separate black dev powder (sourced elsewhere as not possible from Kyocera) and then add your time spent trying to make a yellow dev, black. Remember that your time is valuable and he customer and employer should see that.

                      Is this a second hand yellow dev you have spare?


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                      posting for info is not a waste of time as i learn about a machine i dont service much and also
                      i get info i need to make a decision..
                      the price difference was $300 vs $85
                      so if i decided to go the yellow route i would just vacuum most of the yellow toner out
                      n then let it run replenishing black..
                      on ricoh colors dev by the bag is available and the black drums can be converted to color units"which cost 3 times of the blk pcus".

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                      • fshead
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                        Re: KM-C2525 black dev leaking question.

                        Is this a second hand yellow dev you have spare?
                        no new surplus

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                        • jhalfhide
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                          Re: KM-C2525 black dev leaking question.

                          The difference over here is not that much. That's why I was so confused as to why you would waste so much time trying. I do Ricoh too so know all about the dev bag type but Kyocera is not like that. They're methods are all modular.


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                          • blackcat4866
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                            Re: KM-C2525 black dev leaking question.

                            If you didn't notice, I was discouraging your trying to interchange yellow for black. It's definitely a risk that you won't be able to use the yellow.

                            Personally I would not. =^..^=
                            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                            • fshead
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                              Re: KM-C2525 black dev leaking question.

                              Originally posted by blackcat4866
                              If you didn't notice, I was discouraging your trying to interchange yellow for black. It's definitely a risk that you won't be able to use the yellow.

                              Personally I would not. =^..^=
                              after pulling it apart i am just going to bite the bullet and
                              buy the black dev unit.
                              i only one machine in the field and it s not worth the risks..
                              thnx all

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