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  • subaro
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • Oct 2010
    • 1274

    #1

    Cheaters

    What device do you use to cheat interlock switch, door switch and others. Many would not stay put would not fit properly and sometime would even damage the switches if not used correctly. want to hear what you guys use. If you have pics that would be better.
    THE ONLY THING FOR EVIL TO TRIUMPH IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING..........edmund burke
  • theengel
    Service Manager

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    • Nov 2011
    • 1784

    #2
    Re: Cheaters

    A piece of folded paper.

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    • harleyrider
      Trusted Tech

      250+ Posts
      • Oct 2011
      • 348

      #3
      Re: Cheaters

      a short length of hose like the old savin tanks had in them. works great last long time.

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      • CraigW
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        • Dec 2010
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        #4
        Re: Cheaters

        Short lengths of vinyl tubing.

        Grip well, and stay put.

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        • subaro
          Service Manager

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          • Oct 2010
          • 1274

          #5
          Re: Cheaters

          Originally posted by CraigW
          Short lengths of vinyl tubing.

          Grip well, and stay put.
          Thank you all for the reply. The vinyl tubing works excellent, but must be at least half inch in width. i tried a smaller size but it twist easily and falls out. paper works , but tend not to stay and you have to cut the paper in the correct size ect.

          My trick is to take a tie wrap and bend it in half in a bow pattern with the grip side facing outwards and wrap a piece of electrical wire on the ends. This works very good.
          I use these everday and hates when they slip or keep slowly sliding out and not stay in place. the tie wrap can be thin and will fit in any hole and most likely you would have in your bag if you need a cheater quickly. i should post a pic. this tool, and yes it is an essential tool, saves a lot of time wasting.

          Others may have their own design, please share if you have something ingenious
          THE ONLY THING FOR EVIL TO TRIUMPH IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING..........edmund burke

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          • CraigW
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            • Dec 2010
            • 417

            #6
            Re: Cheaters

            Originally posted by subaro
            My trick is to take a tie wrap and bend it in half in a bow pattern with the grip side facing outwards and wrap a piece of electrical wire on the ends. This works very good.
            I have a folded zip tie as well, folded the same way (no tape though)

            The softish tubing seems to hold in place best.

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            • ZOOTECH
              Senior member of CRS

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              • Jul 2007
              • 3375

              #7
              Re: Cheaters

              I use a Sharp corona cleaner from the mid 90's.Cheater.jpg
              It wedges in pretty well.
              "You can't trust your eyes, if your mind is out of focus" --

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              • blackcat4866
                Master Of The Obvious

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                • Jul 2007
                • 23008

                #8
                Re: Cheaters

                Originally posted by CraigW
                Short lengths of vinyl tubing.

                Grip well, and stay put.
                For years I used 3/8" (10mm) ID vinyl tubing. Bit by bit is been trimmed and used for other things (from 6" down to nothing), until it is completely gone. Recently I dug through my tubing box, and found a very nice 4" length of 3/16" (5mm) ID fuel line. It's very soft, and works better than the vinyl. Like subaro suggests, the best OD is about 1/2" (13mm). =^..^=
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                • subaro
                  Service Manager

                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 1274

                  #9
                  Re: Cheaters

                  Here are two of my cheaters i use every day. these do not slip. i can squeeze it to fit any size hole and adjust easily. I tried many things, but so far these work the best.


                  20151102_121541.jpg
                  THE ONLY THING FOR EVIL TO TRIUMPH IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING..........edmund burke

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                  • Iowatech
                    Not a service manager

                    2,500+ Posts
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 3930

                    #10
                    Re: Cheaters

                    Originally posted by ZOOTECH
                    I use a Sharp corona cleaner from the mid 90's.[ATTACH=CONFIG]31384[/ATTACH]
                    It wedges in pretty well.
                    Those do work really well, unfortunately I broke the last one I had a few years ago.
                    (SF7300? The Lanier equivalent was the 6213 series.)

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                    • KenB
                      Geek Extraordinaire

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                      • Dec 2007
                      • 3944

                      #11
                      Re: Cheaters

                      Canon at least used to sell one as as service tool.

                      Its shaped evolved over the years to fit new models.

                      I think it was made of aluminum, but could have been just about any alloy or compound.

                      I must have had at least 10 of them stashed in various places. I managed to lose them all over time.
                      “I think you should treat good friends like a fine wine. That’s why I keep mine locked up in the basement.” - Tim Hawkins

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                      • Iowatech
                        Not a service manager

                        2,500+ Posts
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 3930

                        #12
                        Re: Cheaters

                        Originally posted by KenB
                        Canon at least used to sell one as as service tool.

                        Its shaped evolved over the years to fit new models.

                        I think it was made of aluminum, but could have been just about any alloy or compound.

                        I must have had at least 10 of them stashed in various places. I managed to lose them all over time.
                        I actually still have one of those, it has a kind of weird "L" shape with some slots cut into it. I don't use it that much anymore, but with a bit of creativity it used to work well for everything.

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                        • Hansoon
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                          • Sep 2007
                          • 3385

                          #13
                          Re: Cheaters

                          Reversed fat Tie Wrap. Hans
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                          • ZOOTECH
                            Senior member of CRS

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                            • Jul 2007
                            • 3375

                            #14
                            Re: Cheaters

                            Originally posted by Iowatech
                            I actually still have one of those, it has a kind of weird "L" shape with some slots cut into it. I don't use it that much anymore, but with a bit of creativity it used to work well for everything.
                            I'll post a photo tomorrow of the one I have, but don't use (haven't seen a Canon in ages).
                            "You can't trust your eyes, if your mind is out of focus" --

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                            • NeoMatrix
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 3513

                              #15
                              Re: Cheaters

                              Originally posted by Iowatech
                              I actually still have one of those, it has a kind of weird "L" shape with some slots cut into it. I don't use it that much anymore, but with a bit of creativity it used to work well for everything.
                              I have a door cheat similar 'L' shape design with slots cut here and there for various makes and models.
                              It was original an ooooldddd Toshiba door cheat. I modified it over the years for Canon, Ricoh ,Sharp, and Brother; and just recently Xerox.
                              It's not always a perfect fit for every slot but it does the job.
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