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  • Gab
    Senior Tech
    • Aug 2015
    • 671

    #1

    MP2501

    I replaced drum, developer and blade and executed the proper sp modes.
    After the replacement, image at the upper side for about 7cm is light.
    I cleaned optics, laser unit , used an other opc drum, checked separation .
    Also i checked developer distribution on magnetic roller and looks ok.
    I executed sp 2 802 and 2 801 with no result also i noticed when i try to make darker the image
    it doesn't has any effect on image. I think to replace developer (again) Any idea?
  • StephenB
    Trusted Tech

    100+ Posts
    • Aug 2015
    • 243

    #2
    Re: MP2501

    Just chased my ass for a couple of months. There are these new "dark greenish" compatible drums sold by several suppliers. most of the time they set up fine, but quickly go to poor density.
    I had the same thoughts as you, proper set up ? bad dev ? Turned out to be bad drums.
    Hope this helps

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    • Gab
      Senior Tech
      • Aug 2015
      • 671

      #3
      Re: MP2501

      Originally posted by StephenB
      Just chased my ass for a couple of months. There are these new "dark greenish" compatible drums sold by several suppliers. most of the time they set up fine, but quickly go to poor density.
      I had the same thoughts as you, proper set up ? bad dev ? Turned out to be bad drums.
      Hope this helps
      I have tried with an OEM OPC drum (now ihave OEM one in the machine ) with no result.
      I also have tested machine with a whole drum unit from an other machine (which machine has made only 15k copies and OEM OPC) , the same no result.

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      • slimslob
        Retired

        Site Contributor
        25,000+ Posts
        • May 2013
        • 37491

        #4
        Re: MP2501

        Originally posted by Gab
        I have tried with an OEM OPC drum (now ihave OEM one in the machine ) with no result.
        I also have tested machine with a whole drum unit from an other machine (which machine has made only 15k copies and OEM OPC) , the same no result.
        OEM does not mean Genuine Ricoh.

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        • Gab
          Senior Tech
          • Aug 2015
          • 671

          #5
          Re: MP2501

          Originally posted by slimslob
          OEM does not mean Genuine Ricoh.
          I mean the whole drum i tested is the drum machine had when i sold it and it has 15k copies
          so it is genuine Ricoh.
          Also customer told me that before drum developer and blade change image had only dark lines and after service light image at the top appears.I think he is right but i can't remember for sure. Except drum unit i haven't touched anything else on the machine.

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          • Elmo
            Senior Tech

            Site Contributor
            500+ Posts
            • Feb 2010
            • 541

            #6
            Re: MP2501

            check the optics make sure you havent knocked a mirror out of position
            I Used To Live To Fix Things Now i Fix Things To Live

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            • Polo-022
              Trusted Tech

              250+ Posts
              • Sep 2007
              • 486

              #7
              Re: MP2501

              ""Except drum unit i haven't touched anything else on the machine.""

              Oh Yes you did Gab...you "touched" Laser Unit!
              Why?

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              • PinevskiS
                Trusted Tech
                • Jul 2009
                • 283

                #8
                Re: MP2501

                Originally posted by Gab
                I replaced drum, developer and blade and executed the proper sp modes.
                After the replacement, image at the upper side for about 7cm is light.
                I cleaned optics, laser unit , used an other opc drum, checked separation .
                Also i checked developer distribution on magnetic roller and looks ok.
                I executed sp 2 802 and 2 801 with no result also i noticed when i try to make darker the image
                it doesn't has any effect on image. I think to replace developer (again) Any idea?
                Clean laser unit (polygon mirror motor)
                and you have great copy.

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                • copier tech
                  Field Supervisor

                  5,000+ Posts
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 8144

                  #9
                  Re: MP2501

                  If the fault is happening on prints you can rule out the optics.

                  You have swapped another drum unit, so you can rule that out.

                  It can only be the laser or the dust glass did you clean the dust glass?
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                  • PinevskiS
                    Trusted Tech
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 283

                    #10
                    Re: MP2501

                    Originally posted by copier tech
                    If the fault is happening on prints you can rule out the optics.

                    You have swapped another drum unit, so you can rule that out.

                    It can only be the laser or the dust glass did you clean the dust glass?
                    I have this problem many times ,problem is polygon mirror motor

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                    • Gab
                      Senior Tech
                      • Aug 2015
                      • 671

                      #11
                      Re: MP2501

                      Originally posted by Polo-022
                      ""Except drum unit i haven't touched anything else on the machine.""

                      Oh Yes you did Gab...you "touched" Laser Unit!
                      Why?
                      Because i believed it was the only thing that left The problem happens before itouch laser unit
                      andremad exavtly the same after.

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                      • Gab
                        Senior Tech
                        • Aug 2015
                        • 671

                        #12
                        Re: MP2501

                        Originally posted by PinevskiS
                        I have this problem many times ,problem is polygon mirror motor
                        No deference when printing or copying
                        I have cand laser unit (glasses and polygon mirror motor ) also blow it with air. Noticed no deference.

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                        • PinevskiS
                          Trusted Tech
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 283

                          #13
                          Re: MP2501

                          Originally posted by Gab
                          No deference when printing or copying
                          I have cand laser unit (glasses and polygon mirror motor ) also blow it with air. Noticed no deference.
                          Can you send scan of counter.

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                          • Gab
                            Senior Tech
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 671

                            #14
                            Re: MP2501

                            Originally posted by PinevskiS
                            Can you send scan of counter.
                            Also i have swaped a separation roller from an af 2018 i had available with same result.

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                            • Iowatech
                              Not a service manager

                              2,500+ Posts
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 3930

                              #15
                              Re: MP2501

                              First, the caveats -
                              I am not trained on that model,
                              I prefer to see an example of at least the print defect, as the different patterns that problems produce make it far easier to troubleshoot.
                              As such, what follows could be a waste of time, and I apologize in advance.
                              However, on older versions of the Ricoh 22 to 30 cpm chassis, the drum discharge PCB was on the upper left side of the PCU cavity, and if it was obviously contaminated with toner this sort of print defect would sometimes occur.
                              I suppose you might also check the drum ground, but as drum ground problems normally affect the entire printed area that is not very likely.

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