Vaccuum

[NeoMatrix]

Re: Vaccuum

Try Atrix. Ebay has a number of them listed at prices starting from $85.00. Look very similar to the 3M. Atrix also makes filter that fit the 3M copyvac.

Ouch that hurt. I just paid for a new 3M vacuum from Katun for $450.(AUD)

I have an on going distaste for Murphies law...
Isn't it amazing how you'll always find out something after the fact.
Example you buy some particular item, and then someone you know comes a long an says
oh!, I got that cheaper over there. And of coarse add in the final insult, "well you should have asked me first."
Yeah right thanks mate, my psychic powers are not fully developed yet you'll have to forgive my ignorance.

[tufbnme]

Re: Vaccuum

3M is the one I have been using, just noisey

[Lagonda]

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The noisy vacuum......the technicians revenge!!
Just wait until the pain in the bum customer is making that all important phone call then fire it up!

[NeoMatrix]

Re: Vaccuum

The noisy vacuum......the technicians revenge!!
Just wait until the pain in the bum customer is making that all important phone call then fire it up!

haha. Truth be known the 3M vac's are noisy little turds...

Yeah it's amazing how the customer is sitting 6 hours on the phone when all the while your standing there waiting,waiting for them to "GET OFF THE PHONE!", so you can get on with the vacuuming.

So, dear customers please take the hint, it's costing you money for the Tech to be standing idle.

Well,not that I mind standing idle when doing time-and-materials jobs...

[apump]

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ever notice how the customer never wants to come and try to make a copy when you are using the vacuum. Its so loud they don't want to come near. sometimes I leave mine running while taking apart the pcu on the mp4000 series just so they wont bother me..

[copyman]

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I also use a 3m vac. Agree a little noisy but the best out there. Fortunately I have only had to pull out the vac maybe 5 times all last year. Don't miss lugging into every service call like years ago. Work mostly on kon/min.

Just had another thought, as for using a meter I might have used it once last year.

[slimslob]

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ever notice how the customer never wants to come and try to make a copy when you are using the vacuum. Its so loud they don't want to come near. sometimes I leave mine running while taking apart the pcu on the mp4000 series just so they wont bother me..

One problem with this. The motor on 3M, and most likely others as well, has a thermal cutoff device. If the motor becomes warm enough for this to trip, you now cannot use it until it cools back down.

[NeoMatrix]

Re: Vaccuum

One problem with this. The motor on 3M, and most likely others as well, has a thermal cutoff device. If the motor becomes warm enough for this to trip, you now cannot use it until it cools back down.

Re: Over heating.
True, the 3M vac's need a lot of air flow to keep them cool. Knowing that, I try not to restrict the end of the vac hose for two long. The old 3M's also do a large current dump into the motor when switching on. Where possible I try and plug into a separate power point away from network switching or other computer related gear.

I have a new 3M vac, I hope they've fixed the thermal cut out time and made it longer before it trips out.

[skookumchuck]

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I started using a 3M vac in 1980 on actual 3M copiers. The 3M VQCIII was a cold pressure fusing treated paper machine. I think it was actually made by Mita. The company I worked for had paper contracts. If you bought paper (4 rolls in a box with a bottle of toner) we would maintain the machine. You guessed it, there were aftermarket suppliers and people with a paper contract would buy aftermarket stuff and get free service. Ahh, the old days!

[ZOOTECH]

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I started using a 3M vac in 1980 on actual 3M copiers. The 3M VQCIII was a cold pressure fusing treated paper machine. I think it was actually made by Mita. The company I worked for had paper contracts. If you bought paper (4 rolls in a box with a bottle of toner) we would maintain the machine. You guessed it, there were aftermarket suppliers and people with a paper contract would buy aftermarket stuff and get free service. Ahh, the old days!

That really sucks! Hopefully, you have corrected that situation.

[Iowatech]

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I started using a 3M vac in 1980 on actual 3M copiers. The 3M VQCIII was a cold pressure fusing treated paper machine. I think it was actually made by Mita. The company I worked for had paper contracts. If you bought paper (4 rolls in a box with a bottle of toner) we would maintain the machine. You guessed it, there were aftermarket suppliers and people with a paper contract would buy aftermarket stuff and get free service. Ahh, the old days!

The only problem with those early 3M vacuums was that the hose and nozzle weren't grounded. If I had to vacuum up a large amount of toner I'd nearly get multiple irritating static shocks. It was bad enough that I started wearing my static protection wristband (grounded to the machine frame) when vacuuming around a machine.
Oh, they were also significantly noisier than the newer 3M vacuums, too.
VQC fuser rollers made good tire buddies, I kept one behind the seat of my deuce during the early years in the Reserves (I think I got that roller out of a machine when its exit rollers turned to goo). It made my convoy stop checks more thorough.

[andrewdecruz]

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3M vacuum cleaners are just about the best there is in the market as it's specifically used for vacuuming fine toner particles for copiers. I have been using mine for 9 years and it is still in fine fettle. And the waste toner cartriages can be emptied for at least 3-4 times before being replaced with new ones. Only drawback is when the motor gets overheated after extensive non-stop usage which then takes a while to cool down before it can be used again.