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  • Phil Walling
    Technician
    • Dec 2015
    • 39

    #1

    [CQ] MP6001 Dev dumping

    Morning folks,

    Having a puzzling one on an MP6001.

    The machine appears to be loosing its developer and passing it through the recycling system and dusting the drum glass.

    It has had... new dev unit, new developer, new drum, new charge unit, drum potential sensor, cleaning blade, transfer belt, toner recycling unit, toner recycling pipe. Yet still after a couple of days we are loosing the image on the paper. Checking the drum glass it is coated with toner/dev.

    The machine was throwing up SC315 codes, which have now stopped with the replacement of the potential sensor. Yesterday when I was there it had thrown a couple of SC312 codes.

    I'm scratching my head slightly and pulling my hair out. I don't have a lot of hair left to start with.

    Any help would be much appreciated

    Many thanks



    Phil
  • Zeldaman
    Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • Mar 2011
    • 946

    #2

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    • trc
      Technician

      50+ Posts
      • Jan 2007
      • 95

      #3
      Re: MP6001 Dev dumping

      Check: Drum earth contacts, erase lamp, charge or bias boards, magnetic roller...

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      • MIKON
        Trusted Tech

        100+ Posts
        • Jul 2015
        • 186

        #4
        Re: MP6001 Dev dumping

        When you changed the developer unit did you remove the filter from the old one and install it it the new one?

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        • slimslob
          Retired

          Site Contributor
          25,000+ Posts
          • May 2013
          • 37052

          #5
          Re: MP6001 Dev dumping

          Originally posted by MIKON
          When you changed the developer unit did you remove the filter from the old one and install it it the new one?
          Or install a new one.

          Also the piece of plastic that set on top of the filter to keep it from lifting up. If it is missing then toner haze will gas out around the edges of the filter and coat the top of the development unit, the drum potential sensor and the laser shield glass.

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          • Counsel
            Senior Tech

            500+ Posts
            • Aug 2011
            • 530

            #6
            Re: MP6001 Dev dumping

            Does the machine have a high page count like up in the millions, if your leaking developer and you have several million pages on the machine it may be time to just replace the developer unit as a whole, I don't think they list them with any yield but even on the larger machines their dev units are rated at like 4 or 5 million for replacement. Something to think about if you don't narrow it down, with the other suggestions, also the front and rear seals on those units leak we try to replace the bearing seals around every other or 3rd PM, otherwise you get feed units with developer in them.

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            • slimslob
              Retired

              Site Contributor
              25,000+ Posts
              • May 2013
              • 37052

              #7
              Re: MP6001 Dev dumping

              Originally posted by Counsel
              Does the machine have a high page count like up in the millions, if your leaking developer and you have several million pages on the machine it may be time to just replace the developer unit as a whole, I don't think they list them with any yield but even on the larger machines their dev units are rated at like 4 or 5 million for replacement. Something to think about if you don't narrow it down, with the other suggestions, also the front and rear seals on those units leak we try to replace the bearing seals around every other or 3rd PM, otherwise you get feed units with developer in them.
              In his first post he said that the development unit was replaced with new.

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              • qbert69
                Service Manager

                1,000+ Posts
                • Mar 2013
                • 1152

                #8
                Re: MP6001 Dev dumping

                This is why I have come to DESPISE Ricoh!....parts never reach their yield!

                On the MP6001, and all of the OLDER models that are just like it...exhibit the same damn problem with the Developer unit.

                Anywhere from 1.5 million to 2 million, the dev units start puking developer out the back seals, developer falls on the paper feed units and "takes them out" so that they have to be cleaned and lubricated...the developer is some abrasive nasty shit!...oh yeah...and I do clean/replace the filter on the developer unit!

                The MP6001 is a "Lipstick on a Pig" situation...ricoh changes the color and styling (maybe the system engine so it's a little faster) but underneath, it's the same shit!...same old shit...new day!

                Another "gripe" is the foam gathering rollers on the finisher....FOAM???...for REAL?!...that shit ROTS!!!....how about a flexible rubber that DOESN'T rot?!?!

                NEED I SAY MORE?!

                REACH FOR THE STARS!!!
                Konica Minolta Planetariums!
                https://www.konicaminolta.com/planet...gma/index.html

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                • mikadonovan
                  Senior Tech

                  Site Contributor
                  2,500+ Posts
                  • May 2008
                  • 2931

                  #9
                  Re: MP6001 Dev dumping

                  Originally posted by qbert69

                  Another "gripe" is the foam gathering rollers on the finisher....FOAM???...for REAL?!...that shit ROTS!!!....how about a flexible rubber that DOESN'T rot?!?!

                  I already tried that. I tore off the sponges and glued small rubber rollers to the shaft. Unfortunately, the little bit of extra load added by doing that stalled the exit motor out because it was so weak.
                  NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING

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                  • Counsel
                    Senior Tech

                    500+ Posts
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 530

                    #10
                    Re: MP6001 Dev dumping

                    Originally posted by slimslob
                    In his first post he said that the development unit was replaced with new.
                    Ah yes missed that, sorry. One thing you could also check would be the charge unit, make sure the spring that hooks to the corona wire is sticking out well enough to make good contact, or if you have a high page count try replacing the corona block in the back of the machine.

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                    • kannuki2
                      Trusted Tech
                      250+ Posts
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 398

                      #11
                      Re: MP6001 Dev dumping

                      Order a new development unit.

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                      • Mark Bbb
                        Service Manager

                        1,000+ Posts
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 1662

                        #12
                        Re: MP6001 Dev dumping

                        Originally posted by kannuki2
                        Order a new development unit.
                        am i missing something here?

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                        • slimslob
                          Retired

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                          25,000+ Posts
                          • May 2013
                          • 37052

                          #13
                          Re: MP6001 Dev dumping

                          Originally posted by Mark Bbb
                          am i missing something here?
                          They jump into a thread without reading what has already been posted.

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                          • Pinokio
                            Junior Member
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 8

                            #14
                            Re: MP6001 Dev dumping

                            Check the toner supply rate, maybe it doesnt get enough toner so its spittin out the developer.

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                            • Mark Bbb
                              Service Manager

                              1,000+ Posts
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 1662

                              #15
                              Re: MP6001 Dev dumping

                              Originally posted by Pinokio
                              Check the toner supply rate, maybe it doesnt get enough toner so its spittin out the developer.
                              Will it spill developer like that when there is no toner?
                              I think the voltage between drum and developer is wrong, causing developer to spill all over...???

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