MP C6003 slow to print colour to finisher.

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  • Gift
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • Mar 2011
    • 2457

    #31
    Re: MP C6003 slow to print colour to finisher.

    WHat kind of slow print? Does the machine need more time between data processing and paper feed or does it reduce the process speed? If you deal with the second case I can imagine that some weird paper type or thickness setting might have an influence.

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    • Imprestik
      Trusted Tech

      250+ Posts
      • Aug 2012
      • 296

      #32
      Re: MP C6003 slow to print colour to finisher.

      Check the PTR roller....

      If anyone has done maintenance on it and put the wrong PTR in your going to have issues

      For example the D149 PTR roller is designed for A3 paper only and does process control on the fly

      The D739 PTR is designed for SRA3 and does process control the usual way via patch between jobs

      If someone has put the wrong PTR in it can cause weird and wonderful issues

      Also when it comes to shitty issues like this I find a new set of door switches always seems to work as Ricoh door switches are absolutely shit

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      • sturmtrooper
        Copier Combobulator

        500+ Posts
        • May 2016
        • 587

        #33
        Re: MP C6003 slow to print colour to finisher.

        Originally posted by Imprestik
        Check the PTR roller....

        If anyone has done maintenance on it and put the wrong PTR in your going to have issues

        For example the D149 PTR roller is designed for A3 paper only and does process control on the fly

        The D739 PTR is designed for SRA3 and does process control the usual way via patch between jobs

        If someone has put the wrong PTR in it can cause weird and wonderful issues

        Also when it comes to shitty issues like this I find a new set of door switches always seems to work as Ricoh door switches are absolutely shit
        I don't think having the wide PTR in the machine would matter unless the SP code has been changed to reflect that. If he had the wide roller in and the machine was set to narrow he would notice on his output paper. But it can't hurt to check I suppose.

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        • BLADE
          former propeller tester

          250+ Posts
          • Dec 2009
          • 478

          #34
          Re: MP C6003 slow to print colour to finisher.

          dumb idea but maybe change the driver/command settings

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          • Lagonda
            Service Manager

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            • Aug 2008
            • 1649

            #35
            Re: MP C6003 slow to print colour to finisher.

            Well bugger me!!!!

            Thermistor.jpg

            Had a brain storming session with the senior techs the other morning and just for fun one of the guys swapped fusers and, oh lord look at that, the bloody thing worked!

            Can understand why it would take a long while to bring fuser up to temp for colour print but why the difference between internal tray and finisher tray???

            Anyway full marks to Damo for stepping outside the square and trying something different. Sometimes we just over analyse things.
            At least 50% of IT is a solution looking for a problem.

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            • BLADE
              former propeller tester

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              • Dec 2009
              • 478

              #36
              Re: MP C6003 slow to print colour to finisher.

              good one Damo

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              • Mark Bbb
                Service Manager

                1,000+ Posts
                • Jun 2012
                • 1662

                #37
                Re: MP C6003 slow to print colour to finisher.

                Originally posted by Lagonda
                Well bugger me!!!!

                [ATTACH=CONFIG]35683[/ATTACH]

                Had a brain storming session with the senior techs the other morning and just for fun one of the guys swapped fusers and, oh lord look at that, the bloody thing worked!

                Can understand why it would take a long while to bring fuser up to temp for colour print but why the difference between internal tray and finisher tray???

                Anyway full marks to Damo for stepping outside the square and trying something different. Sometimes we just over analyse things.
                hard to believe

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                • KenB
                  Geek Extraordinaire

                  2,500+ Posts
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 3945

                  #38
                  Re: MP C6003 slow to print colour to finisher.

                  Weird fuser problems can make you hallucinate.
                  “I think you should treat good friends like a fine wine. That’s why I keep mine locked up in the basement.” - Tim Hawkins

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                  • Mark Bbb
                    Service Manager

                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 1662

                    #39
                    Re: MP C6003 slow to print colour to finisher.

                    Originally posted by KenB
                    Weird fuser problems can make you hallucinate.
                    And that is "the best state to be in" to solve such problems

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                    • NeoMatrix
                      Senior Tech.

                      2,500+ Posts
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3514

                      #40
                      Re: MP C6003 slow to print colour to finisher.

                      Originally posted by Lagonda
                      Well bugger me!!!!

                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]35683[/ATTACH]

                      Had a brain storming session with the senior techs the other morning and just for fun one of the guys swapped fusers and, oh lord look at that, the bloody thing worked!

                      Can understand why it would take a long while to bring fuser up to temp for colour print but why the difference between internal tray and finisher tray???

                      Anyway full marks to Damo for stepping outside the square and trying something different. Sometimes we just over analyse things.
                      We had an MPC 4500 sitting directly under a wall mounted airconditioner. The fixed air-con vains where directed down onto the copier. The machine would sometimes take ages to come out of hybernation into ready mode. It would some times throw a fuser SC5??? code. After 2 or 3 fuser replacements, we finally convinced the customer to move the machine out from under the air-con unit and the problem dissappeared.
                      Inauguration to the "AI cancel-culture" fraternity 1997...
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                      • tufbnme
                        Trusted Tech

                        250+ Posts
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 493

                        #41
                        Re: MP C6003 slow to print colour to finisher.

                        That's the stuff that gives me grey hair and takes years from my life.
                        Used to be kinda fun to track down and figure out these things, now days I just want to fix it and get out quick as possible.

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                        • Iowatech
                          Not a service manager

                          2,500+ Posts
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 3930

                          #42
                          Re: MP C6003 slow to print colour to finisher.

                          Could it be a play on the old "pressure roller heater out, but roller is achieving proper temp from fusing belt/hot roller"? Something like that would be my guess, especially if that picture is of a pressure roller thermistor from the old fuser.
                          Seems like an awfully long delay for that though, I would have expected SC54X series error codes rather than prints.
                          Plus, I thought those wide contact thermistors were history. Shows what I know.

                          Before edit:

                          typo.jpg

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                          • Hadster
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                            • Aug 2011
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                            #43
                            Re: MP C6003 slow to print colour to finisher.

                            Well! I have the exact problem on the exact machine model(6003). Firmware is up to date. I ran black/white (8 1/2x11) copies on a stop watch to check the speed and it took 1min and 30sec. to make 60 copies. What the ?

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                            • slimslob
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                              • May 2013
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                              #44
                              Re: MP C6003 slow to print colour to finisher.

                              Originally posted by Hadster
                              Well! I have the exact problem on the exact machine model(6003). Firmware is up to date. I ran black/white (8 1/2x11) copies on a stop watch to check the speed and it took 1min and 30sec. to make 60 copies. What the ?
                              Not necessarily a problem. 60 ppm is based on single sided copies letter size LEF made from a single original placed on the platen glass. SEF will take longer. Duplex will take longer. Stop watch should be started as the lead edge of the first copies starts to exit and stopped when the last page finishes exiting.

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                              • Hadster
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                                • Aug 2011
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                                #45
                                Re: MP C6003 slow to print colour to finisher.

                                You know sometimes I even pi** myself off! Sorry guys, I AGAIN did not notice there was more than one page of solutions on this thread! The temp sensor WAS bent over. This helped but did not resolve the issue 100%. CPM is down from 1:30 to 1:15 after bending the sensor back. Still needed another 15 secs in copy speed. Turned off 1113-1 Curl correction and bam another 15 sec. Now from the time the first copy comes out to the last is right on 60 sec..

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