'03 fuser noise

[mikadonovan]

Hi, All. I have a couple of new(used) machines, a c4503 and a c5503 that are exhibiting fuser crinkling noises with only 30k on the fuser. I did not find a bulletin on the issue. I have had to relube bearings on previous models to get good life out of the fusers, but those were close to the end of their life cycle. These fusers are rated at 400k, so issues at 30k just seem wrong. Has anyone else run into this?

[zed255]

Re: '03 fuser noise

Can happen at any time. Usually following someone poking at the fuser to free a jam.

A crinkling sound is the kiss of death; seen these rip the sleeves right in two and bend the frame of the belt unit.

[Tonerbomb]

Re: '03 fuser noise

Can happen at any time. Usually following someone poking at the fuser to free a jam.

A crinkling sound is the kiss of death; seen these rip the sleeves right in two and bend the frame of the belt unit.

Yep check the sleeve!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[copier tech]

[slimslob]

Re: '03 fuser noise

Could be a new customer to his service territory or an existing customer just bought a used machine.

[Gary Bowen]

Re: '03 fuser noise

Constantly. Even with complete fuser rebuilds (Fusing Sleeve, Pressure Roller, Bearings) beginning to see this after about 25K (FYI - When you take the fuser apart there is no damage to the Fusing Sleeve surface). There were some earlier Fusing Sleeves (MP C2051?) that we were to actually grease the inside of the sleeve where it ran on the sleeve cap.

[Lagonda]

Re: '03 fuser noise

May be low copy count but how old are the fusers? The inner sleeve lube can dry out just sitting there not moving.

[Mark Bbb]

Re: '03 fuser noise

We have experienced that when client is using - even only one - thick paper, you have this issue!
Like someone said here, could be "new" machiens with very old fusers!

[Mark Bbb]

Re: '03 fuser noise

We have experienced that when client is using - even only one - thick paper, you have this issue!
Like someone said here, could be "new" machiens with very old fusers!

is using thick paper WITHOUT INDICATING IT !!!

[mikadonovan]

Re: '03 fuser noise

Could be a new customer to his service territory or an existing customer just bought a used machine.

Or, it could be I work for an indy and we get low mileage off lease machines from a very large copier exchange. I do get to look at the SMC's of the equipment before we buy to weed out the iffy ones. It keeps us competitive as far as cost goes.

[mikadonovan]

Re: '03 fuser noise

May be low copy count but how old are the fusers? The inner sleeve lube can dry out just sitting there not moving.

God knows how long the equipment we get sits in a warehouse before we get it. I have read some posts about techs lubing the inside of the sleeve. What kind of grease do you use?

[Mark Bbb]

Re: '03 fuser noise

God knows how long the equipment we get sits in a warehouse before we get it. I have read some posts about techs lubing the inside of the sleeve. What kind of grease do you use?

I wonder about that too, i dont believe someone has ever done that succesfully...
I have tried it, but failled (hard)!

[ShonRipz]

Re: '03 fuser noise

I may be wrong, but I do believe there is a tsb currently for the 03 series for a clicking sound due to the fuser drive gears. There are updated gears that reduce adrasion. If that is not the cause then I would clean the stripper plate and possibly replace the fuser sleeve

[mikadonovan]

Re: '03 fuser noise

I may be wrong, but I do believe there is a tsb currently for the 03 series for a clicking sound due to the fuser drive gears. There are updated gears that reduce adrasion.

I remember there was a bulletin about a part number change on the fuser drive gears. I will check that out before resleeving a fuser. Thank you, that may be the fix.

[Lagonda]

Re: '03 fuser noise

Or, it could be I work for an indy and we get low mileage off lease machines from a very large copier exchange. I do get to look at the SMC's of the equipment before we buy to weed out the iffy ones. It keeps us competitive as far as cost goes.

i would be worried that someone got to the copier before you took possession of it and swapped their high mileage fuser for a younger one.
As for stripping and re-lubing the inside of the sleeve, forget it it's not worth the effort. The things are jig built and if you pull it to pieces it collapses into a pile fiddly parts and you end up damaging the sleeve trying to get it back together.