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  • Mark Bbb
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • Jun 2012
    • 1662

    disable colour function on a Ricoh

    Hoi,
    Is there a way to block the colour function?
    Because (f.i.) for every start up (or after energy recovery) it developes ID patterns.
    We sometimes sell a colour machine for only B&W use, because they have better performance than a B&W.
    Now we solve this it with a code (authentication) system...
    I don't think there is another way, but do you know any another way?
    Thank in advance!
  • sandmanmac
    Field Supervisor

    Site Contributor
    2,500+ Posts
    • Feb 2009
    • 3947

    #2
    Re: disable colour function on a Ricoh

    Originally posted by Mark Bbb
    Is there a way to block the colour function?

    We sometimes sell a colour machine for only B&W use, because they have better performance than a B&W.
    No, and SAY WHAT?

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    • Mark Bbb
      Service Manager

      1,000+ Posts
      • Jun 2012
      • 1662

      #3
      Re: disable colour function on a Ricoh

      Originally posted by sandmanmac
      No, and SAY WHAT?
      Take the:
      mp2001, it jams sometimes due to moisture paper => tray heater => very expensive + only heats when machine is off ...
      mp2851 fine to me, but no more production ...
      mp2852 a little less than mp2851, but still ok, no more production ...
      mp3054 etc... sorry, don't like the engine and already had trouble with a counter only 50K ...

      What else is there to do but to sell a colour for a B&W use?
      At least when you want a satisfied customer !!!

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      • FrohnB
        Service Manager

        Site Contributor
        1,000+ Posts
        • Jul 2017
        • 1919

        #4
        Re: disable colour function on a Ricoh

        I don't think you can "Turn off" the color function, but you can adjust some SP settings so that it doesn't run Process control as often.

        SP 3301-002 I would bump up to 200.
        SP 3529-004 up to 99.
        SP 3530-006 up to 5,000.
        SP 3531 down to like 2.
        SP 3533-011 to 5,000.
        SP 3540-002 to 5,000.
        SP 3541-002 to 5,000.
        SP 3600-004 to 0.

        We have never had to actually change these settings, and I am not sure what it will do "in the long run", but it's worth a try. Try at your own risk!
        I would still be looking to try and sell them just a normal black and white machine. There are some good performers out there (xx55 series is one).
        Omertà

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        • sturmtrooper
          Copier Combobulator

          500+ Posts
          • May 2016
          • 589

          #5
          Re: disable colour function on a Ricoh

          Originally posted by Mark Bbb
          Take the:

          mp3054 etc... sorry, don't like the engine and already had trouble with a counter only 50K ...

          What else is there to do but to sell a colour for a B&W use?
          At least when you want a satisfied customer !!!
          Not sure what there isn't to like about the engine. It's far better than the previous BW machines. I've got at least three or four out there with 600k on the meter and they still run. Probably about 30-40 in the field mostly in prisons and they usually don't require much beyond regular maintenance and customer stupidity fixes.

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          • sandmanmac
            Field Supervisor

            Site Contributor
            2,500+ Posts
            • Feb 2009
            • 3947

            #6
            Re: disable colour function on a Ricoh

            Originally posted by Mark Bbb
            Take the:

            mp2851 fine to me, but no more production ...
            mp2852 a little less than mp2851, but still ok, no more production ...
            mp3054 etc... sorry, don't like the engine and already had trouble with a counter only 50K ...
            I have no issues with any of these boxes when serviced properly (can't speak to the MP2001).
            Maybe its an environmental thing where you are.
            my upfront cost (at least where I am) is also about 1/2 that of the comparable colour model

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            • skinnyb
              Trusted Tech

              250+ Posts
              • Jul 2008
              • 291

              #7
              Re: disable colour function on a Ricoh

              Originally posted by sturmtrooper
              Not sure what there isn't to like about the engine. It's far better than the previous BW machines. I've got at least three or four out there with 600k on the meter and they still run. Probably about 30-40 in the field mostly in prisons and they usually don't require much beyond regular maintenance and customer stupidity fixes.
              I agree. The 4054/4055 series is VASTLY superior to the older B@W devices. They regularly run pm to pm for me. The PCDU is a pain in the @$$ to rebuild the first couple of times but there is a PM kit with literally every part you need including the drum and developer. The 240k kit has the Fuser parts and they are amazing.

              Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk

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              • slimslob
                Retired

                Site Contributor
                25,000+ Posts
                • May 2013
                • 35058

                #8
                Re: disable colour function on a Ricoh

                If you are primarily interested in blocking color printing, you might want to use the Ricoh Print Driver Editor. It is no longer available from Ricoh but you can download it at Softpedia. You have to use it to edit the OEMSETUP before installing the printer driver. The download file includes User Guides in 7 languages.

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                • copier tech
                  Field Supervisor

                  5,000+ Posts
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 7930

                  #9
                  Re: disable colour function on a Ricoh

                  Originally posted by Mark Bbb
                  Hoi,
                  Is there a way to block the colour function?
                  Because (f.i.) for every start up (or after energy recovery) it developes ID patterns.
                  We sometimes sell a colour machine for only B&W use, because they have better performance than a B&W.
                  Now we solve this it with a code (authentication) system...
                  I don't think there is another way, but do you know any another way?
                  Thank in advance!
                  Simply use a black & white driver.

                  The MPxx54 series is excellent mono machine it looks just like the MPCxx03 its easy to work on & very reliable.
                  Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                  For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                  www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                  • Oze
                    Ricoh Fanboy

                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 1663

                    #10
                    Re: disable colour function on a Ricoh

                    Originally posted by copier tech
                    Simply use a black & white driver.

                    The MPxx54 series is excellent mono machine it looks just like the MPCxx03 its easy to work on & very reliable.
                    Yep...
                    I just installed an MPC3504 where they used to have an MP7001 and left the B/W driver loaded and locked colour copying out with User Authentication.
                    Interested to see how badly the colour drums are going to suffer

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                    • copier tech
                      Field Supervisor

                      5,000+ Posts
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 7930

                      #11
                      Re: disable colour function on a Ricoh

                      Originally posted by Oze
                      Yep...
                      I just installed an MPC3504 where they used to have an MP7001 and left the B/W driver loaded and locked colour copying out with User Authentication.
                      Interested to see how badly the colour drums are going to suffer
                      Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                      For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                      www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                      • Mark Bbb
                        Service Manager

                        1,000+ Posts
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 1662

                        #12
                        Re: disable colour function on a Ricoh

                        I am gladd you all are satisfied of the 3504 series.
                        I am not!
                        I had never had any issues with mp2851, not one single problem at all!!!
                        But i understand, if you don't know the tricks to PM a mp2851 you won't get any customer satisfied, and need to service is once every 3 months!

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                        • sturmtrooper
                          Copier Combobulator

                          500+ Posts
                          • May 2016
                          • 589

                          #13
                          Re: disable colour function on a Ricoh

                          Originally posted by Oze
                          Yep...
                          I just installed an MPC3504 where they used to have an MP7001 and left the B/W driver loaded and locked colour copying out with User Authentication.
                          Interested to see how badly the colour drums are going to suffer
                          It will take several years, but eventually they will destroy themselves through process control. I had a 6002 do that once. like five years old with 60k on the clock and the drum was just shredded.

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                          • fshead
                            Service Manager

                            1,000+ Posts
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 2356

                            #14
                            Re: disable colour function on a Ricoh

                            WHY not just sell them the color machine like i do.
                            I tell them you dont need to wait in line at staples or local print shop anymore when you need color copies/prints
                            If you need to run it then you will need to get color toners.'i only
                            include black side of copier and black toners in contracts..it works for me

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                            • Mark Bbb
                              Service Manager

                              1,000+ Posts
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 1662

                              #15
                              Re: disable colour function on a Ricoh

                              Originally posted by fshead
                              WHY not just sell them the color machine like i do.
                              I tell them you dont need to wait in line at staples or local print shop anymore when you need color copies/prints
                              If you need to run it then you will need to get color toners.'i only
                              include black side of copier and black toners in contracts..it works for me
                              You have got a point, but sometimes the CEO don't want them to print colour...
                              They think the personal will only abuse the colour function for own benefit.
                              Or sometimes there is totaly no need for colour, that happens.

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