Ricoh AP 400 Printer - New Fuser says "Reset Fuser Correctly" but resets counter

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  • patterson70
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    Ricoh AP 400 Printer - New Fuser says "Reset Fuser Correctly" but resets counter

    Hello, went out to replace the fuser on this older but still good printer as the red light was on. After installing the new fuser (I confirmed it is the correct product number) the red light goes on and says "Install Fuser Correctly". So I triple checked and it is installed correctly. Unable to get it to work, I installed the old fuser and now the red light is off and it works. So the new Fuser reset the counter - but now I have a new fuser in the box that will not work. Has anyone seen this before? Thanks.
  • dalewb74
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    Re: Ricoh AP 400 Printer - New Fuser says "Reset Fuser Correctly" but resets counter

    i would return it from where you got it. they probably just rebuilt it and didn't get something just right.

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    • patterson70
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      Re: Ricoh AP 400 Printer - New Fuser says "Reset Fuser Correctly" but resets counter

      Hey thanks but it was definitely OEM and not rebuilt.

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      • mikadonovan
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        Re: Ricoh AP 400 Printer - New Fuser says "Reset Fuser Correctly" but resets counter

        This may help.
        Attached Files
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        • slimslob
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          Re: Ricoh AP 400 Printer - New Fuser says "Reset Fuser Correctly" but resets counter

          Originally posted by patterson70
          Hey thanks but it was definitely OEM and not rebuilt.
          If you bought it direct from Ricoh, you should be able to return it as an out of box failure. If, as you say, it is OEM and not Genuine Ricoh, good luck.

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          • patterson70
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            Re: Ricoh AP 400 Printer - New Fuser says "Reset Fuser Correctly" but resets counter

            Originally posted by slimslob
            If you bought it direct from Ricoh, you should be able to return it as an out of box failure. If, as you say, it is OEM and not Genuine Ricoh, good luck.
            Thanks guys. The PDF was of help, but it did not answer the question as to how the new fuser reset the counter in the machine so tht the older fuser would not show the red light and "Replace Fuser" mseeage.

            This a weird problem that may have no resolution.

            Also, what I meant by OEM is that it is Genuine Ricoh, not a third party or reman.

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            • mikadonovan
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              Re: Ricoh AP 400 Printer - New Fuser says "Reset Fuser Correctly" but resets counter

              Originally posted by patterson70
              Thanks guys. The PDF was of help, but it did not answer the question as to how the new fuser reset the counter in the machine so tht the older fuser would not show the red light and "Replace Fuser"
              Yes it did. The fuse under the connector of the new fuser blew and reset the fuser count so the old fuser can work again. As far as the "install fuser correctly", obviously there is something wrong with it. Send it back.
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              • Oze
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                Re: Ricoh AP 400 Printer - New Fuser says "Reset Fuser Correctly" but resets counter

                Originally posted by mikadonovan
                Yes it did. The fuse under the connector of the new fuser blew and reset the fuser count so the old fuser can work again. As far as the "install fuser correctly", obviously there is something wrong with it. Send it back.
                +1 for this.
                The popped fuse reset the PM message and counters and that new fuser has a separate issue.

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                • patterson70
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                  Re: Ricoh AP 400 Printer - New Fuser says "Reset Fuser Correctly" but resets counter

                  Originally posted by Oze
                  +1 for this.
                  The popped fuse reset the PM message and counters and that new fuser has a separate issue.
                  Thanks guys. I looked at the new one extremely carefully and everything matched up. Double checked the part number. Will re-inspect again though and if I find anything I will let you know.

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                  • Oze
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                    Re: Ricoh AP 400 Printer - New Fuser says "Reset Fuser Correctly" but resets counter

                    Originally posted by patterson70
                    Thanks guys. I looked at the new one extremely carefully and everything matched up. Double checked the part number. Will re-inspect again though and if I find anything I will let you know.
                    It's been a couple of years since I tackled one of these old beasts but something to look for might be whether or not the lower frame of the fuser has a "keyed slot".
                    Not sure whether the AP600 fuser would fit this but I suspect it would.
                    Ricoh would make it impossible to switch fusers between models via a keyed slot on the fuser base plate and a pin inside the machine.
                    Just me clutching at straws here

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                    • davel
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                      Re: Ricoh AP 400 Printer - New Fuser says "Reset Fuser Correctly" but resets counter

                      Wasn’t the AP 600 an A3 machine?
                      check the plug on the fusers look for a jumper in a different position.

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                      • slimslob
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                        Re: Ricoh AP 400 Printer - New Fuser says "Reset Fuser Correctly" but resets counter

                        Check the connector wiring against the point-to-point diagram. It may be partially wired for the wrong voltage. 115V fusing lamp and thermostat between pins 1&2, jumper between pins B1 and B3. 230V fusing lamp and thermostat between pins 2&3, jumper between pins B1 and B4. If either or both those sets are wrong you will get the Fuser Not Set Correctly message.

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                        • Oze
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                          Re: Ricoh AP 400 Printer - New Fuser says "Reset Fuser Correctly" but resets counter

                          Yeah...now that you've said that i remember they were a HUGE fusing assy.

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                          • mikadonovan
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                            Re: Ricoh AP 400 Printer - New Fuser says "Reset Fuser Correctly" but resets counter

                            Hey Oze, I like your axes. Just ordered me an Epi Les Paul Studio. I'm excited, can't wait to get that slab of mahogany. (sorry, off topic)
                            NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING

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                            • Oze
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                              Re: Ricoh AP 400 Printer - New Fuser says "Reset Fuser Correctly" but resets counter

                              Originally posted by mikadonovan
                              Hey Oze, I like your axes. Just ordered me an Epi Les Paul Studio. I'm excited, can't wait to get that slab of mahogany. (sorry, off topic)
                              Thanks mate...I DO like the Epi Studios...especially worn cherry

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