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  • fshead
    Service Manager

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    • Jan 2009
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    #1

    Scan to email problem on MPC4503

    HI
    i spent 2 hours yesterday on a mpc4503 with all FW updated that
    I installed 2 months ago.
    Originally scan to email was set up by previous owner using SMTP2GO and since it worked I just
    stayed with it.So customer complains that they are not getting the scan email from that copier.
    I send a bunch of tests to both her email,programmed on unit and my email"both gmail accnts.
    And machines goes from 98% back to 100% every time.But the email does not end up in email"cked spam
    and all folders and nothing"..
    I ping the unit and run some print test and all is ok.
    So I think maybe previous account deleted this smp2go account.
    I go and reinstall smtp setting using gmail and authentication fails.
    I try my SMTP2GO settings and same issue..
    What am i missing here?
    Is there a ricoh check list to troubleshoot scan to email settings?
  • bsm2
    IT Manager

    25,000+ Posts
    • Feb 2008
    • 29555

    #2
    Re: Scan to email problem on MPC4503

    First thing USE the CUSTOMER EMAIL account PERIOD! Not a third party

    Use the settings THEY provide you and test. DO NOT EVER setup or create a customers email account. Send to yourself
    If it left the machine it's good COMPLETED. However spam filter may be the issue.

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    • fshead
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      #3
      Re: Scan to email problem on MPC4503

      Originally posted by bsm2
      First thing USE the CUSTOMER EMAIL account PERIOD! Not a third party

      Use the settings THEY provide you and test. Send to yourself
      If it left the machine it's good COMPLETED. However spam filter may be the issue.
      At the time it worked so i went with it and this account is selling houses so security is not paramount..
      I made all the connection test and they all tested good.
      Is there an easier way to configure scan to email using Microsoft office professional 2019 or other?
      I tried the default 465,25,2525 and I HATE this part of the job.............
      Customer has no IT guys and use the logic well it was working so why not now...

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      • bsm2
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        #4
        Re: Scan to email problem on MPC4503

        Who setups up there email accounts? Who is there email through? Every SMTP is different

        The logic is when it breaks it's ON YOU! You should always use there EMAIL settings, so if it fails it's billable.

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        • fshead
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          #5
          Re: Scan to email problem on MPC4503

          hi
          there is no one setting up their email accounts.They are a typical Non tech types...
          I used my GMAIL account that I added just for configuring scan to email on my accounts in the field.
          I tried my SMTP2GO account settings>>failed and gmail settings smtp.gmail.com port 465 my email log in etc etc.. and that fails too.
          ISit work buying office 365 to see if that is an easier choice? smtp.office365.com ?
          OR if that something quirky too?

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          • bsm2
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            • Feb 2008
            • 29555

            #6
            Re: Scan to email problem on MPC4503

            Originally posted by fshead
            hi
            there is no one setting up their email accounts.They are a typical Non tech types...
            I used my GMAIL account that I added just for configuring scan to email on my accounts in the field.
            I tried my SMTP2GO account settings>>failed and gmail settings smtp.gmail.com port 465 my email log in etc etc.. and that fails too.
            ISit work buying office 365 to see if that is an easier choice? smtp.office365.com ?
            OR if that something quirky too?

            Gmail would be Gmail SMTP server address: smtp.gmail.com.Gmail SMTP username: Your full Gmail address (e.g. yourusername@gmail.com)
            Gmail SMTP password: Your Gmail password.


            Gmail SMTP port (SSL): 465.

            Turn on less secure apps in gmail account


            Office 365 email support only TLS that Ricoh doesn't support or they can setup a mail relay in Office 365

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            • slimslob
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              • May 2013
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              #7
              Re: Scan to email problem on MPC4503

              SMTP2Go has a history of being used by spammers. As a result they go through periods of other email providers receiving "mark as spam" from their subscribers. After receiving a set number of "mark as spam" on emails from a given smtp server many email providers block all email coming from that server unless the sender is white listed by the recipient. We even had a problem here last year with newby and subscription email being blocked.

              That said, has the customer recently changed their ISP? Some ISPs will block all normal smtp ports to any smtp server except their own from scanning devices. We used to have problems with AT&T Uverse. If that is the situation, most ISPs have you set up at least one email account with them to use for login to their account services.

              Some trouble shooting to try. As soon as the send fails when you are doing a test, immediately go to User Tools - System Settings - Interface and print the settings. The last page will be the error log and should have at least one line that is an smtp error. Also check the DNS settings and add 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4 if it is not already set. These are the Google public DNS.

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              • NeoMatrix
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                • Nov 2010
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                Re: Scan to email problem on MPC4503

                It might be gmail enforcing "double confirmation" login every few weeks/months.


                -----Example----
                "Are you a ROBOT...?"
                Please tag the following traffic light Captcha images.

                I believe the above can happen if the person is using two separate devices to login to the same email account.
                Say for example an automated MFD login, and the other login manually through a PC keyboard.

                With a manual login gmail flags all username and password errors. If too many user login errors occur gmail
                prompts the user for "double confirmation" login or "Captcha image" confirmation, before the email account can be accessed. In other words, the MFD email account on gmail won't work.

                Solution:
                Using any Web Browser login in manually to the problem gmail account; answer all the prompt captcha questions, logout, and the MFD should work on the problem gmail account once again.


                HTH
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                • slimslob
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                  #9
                  Re: Scan to email problem on MPC4503

                  Originally posted by NeoMatrix
                  It might be gmail enforcing "double confirmation" login every few weeks/months.


                  -----Example----
                  "Are you a ROBOT...?"
                  Please tag the following traffic light Captcha images.

                  I believe the above can happen if the person is using two separate devices to login to the same email account.
                  Say for example an automated MFD login, and the other login manually through a PC keyboard.

                  With a manual login gmail flags all username and password errors. If too many user login errors occur gmail
                  prompts the user for "double confirmation" login or "Captcha image" confirmation, before the email account can be accessed. In other words, the MFD email account on gmail won't work.

                  Solution:
                  Using any Web Browser login in manually to the problem gmail account; answer all the prompt captcha questions, logout, and the MFD should work on the problem gmail account once again.


                  HTH
                  I have 3 laptops and my droid that are frequently logged in to gmail at the same time.

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                  • fshead
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                    #10
                    Re: Scan to email problem on MPC4503

                    Originally posted by slimslob
                    SMTP2Go has a history of being used by spammers. As a result they go through periods of other email providers receiving "mark as spam" from their subscribers. After receiving a set number of "mark as spam" on emails from a given smtp server many email providers block all email coming from that server unless the sender is white listed by the recipient. We even had a problem here last year with newby and subscription email being blocked.

                    That said, has the customer recently changed their ISP? Some ISPs will block all normal smtp ports to any smtp server except their own from scanning devices. We used to have problems with AT&T Uverse. If that is the situation, most ISPs have you set up at least one email account with them to use for login to their account services.

                    Some trouble shooting to try. As soon as the send fails when you are doing a test, immediately go to User Tools - System Settings - Interface and print the settings. The last page will be the error log and should have at least one line that is an smtp error. Also check the DNS settings and add 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4 if it is not already set. These are the Google public DNS.

                    re>>
                    That said, has the customer recently changed their ISP?
                    no its Verizon and a new install/location about 2 months old.
                    Same router/wiring done by me to the machine etc.
                    THE DNS settings are 8 8 8 8 and 8 8 4 4 and all tested ok.
                    I am curious if the scanner goes from 97% to 100% on scan to email is that 100% that scan to email was/is correctly configured?
                    I cant figure why my SMTP2GO settings dont jive and work..

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                    • bsm2
                      IT Manager

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                      • Feb 2008
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                      #11
                      Re: Scan to email problem on MPC4503

                      Originally posted by fshead
                      re>>
                      That said, has the customer recently changed their ISP?
                      no its Verizon and a new install/location about 2 months old.
                      Same router/wiring done by me to the machine etc.
                      THE DNS settings are 8 8 8 8 and 8 8 4 4 and all tested ok.
                      I am curious if the scanner goes from 97% to 100% on scan to email is that 100% that scan to email was/is correctly configured?
                      I cant figure why my SMTP2GO settings dont jive and work..
                      If the machine log is completed it's GONE! Most likely SPAMED

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                      • Kimi
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                        • Feb 2018
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                        #12
                        Re: Scan to email problem on MPC4503

                        Originally posted by fshead
                        re>>
                        That said, has the customer recently changed their ISP?
                        no its Verizon and a new install/location about 2 months old.
                        Same router/wiring done by me to the machine etc.
                        THE DNS settings are 8 8 8 8 and 8 8 4 4 and all tested ok.
                        I am curious if the scanner goes from 97% to 100% on scan to email is that 100% that scan to email was/is correctly configured?
                        I cant figure why my SMTP2GO settings dont jive and work..
                        If it goes to 100% then the copier has done its job therefore how much more should you troubleshoot? Try an alternative setup like Gmail

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                        • slimslob
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                          Re: Scan to email problem on MPC4503

                          Originally posted by Kimi
                          If it goes to 100% then the copier has done its job therefore how much more should you troubleshoot? Try an alternative setup like Gmail
                          Try reading the thread Kimi. He has tried Gmail.

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                          • fshead
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                            #14
                            Re: Scan to email problem on MPC4503

                            Originally posted by Kimi
                            If it goes to 100% then the copier has done its job therefore how much more should you troubleshoot? Try an alternative setup like Gmail
                            hi
                            I am going back to accnt tommrw"40 min drive each way" so i want to be ready.
                            I for some reason could not get both SMTP2GO and GMAIL to function and kept getting authentication failed.
                            I will bring my laptop,created another gmail accnt with less secure app allowed and my new SMTP2GO log in name and password.
                            I am going to try these on my mpc401 that i have in shop 1st..
                            These customer just see a button to hit 4 scanning and dont care about all the stuff that could block emails and such..

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                            • Kimi
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                              #15
                              Re: Scan to email problem on MPC4503

                              Originally posted by fshead
                              hi
                              I am going back to accnt tommrw"40 min drive each way" so i want to be ready.
                              I for some reason could not get both SMTP2GO and GMAIL to function and kept getting authentication failed.
                              I will bring my laptop,created another gmail accnt with less secure app allowed and my new SMTP2GO log in name and password.
                              I am going to try these on my mpc401 that i have in shop 1st..
                              These customer just see a button to hit 4 scanning and dont care about all the stuff that could block emails and such..
                              Try starting from scratch and see how that goes.

                              Ricoh Printers - SMTP2GO - just in case you are not getting the correct settings, port 2525 always works for me, 25 didnt

                              Its always worth creating an account on SMTP2go or Gmail for troubleshooting, that way you know what the email/password is.

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