Ricoh mp9002 cleaning web finished after only 57k print (!!!) instead of 450k or so.

[luca72]

Hi everyone, I have this strange problem: replaced cleaning web at 1246289 on 06/02/19, and then again at 1303311 on 06/03/19, the cloth was really exhausted/unrolled, only that the 9002 has only made 57000 prints !(if math is not an opinion LOL). ... after the replacement I checked all the values of sp 1902-xxx, and they are all default,.
Do you have any idea what happened and what to watch?P.S. strangely the resettable capacity value (sp1902-001) was at 60 (?) but the sheet was completely unrolled / finishedthank you in advance.

[davel]

Re: Ricoh mp9002 cleaning web finished after only 57k print (!!!) instead of 450k or

Was it the correct web? Maybe replace complete web unit.

[Zeldaman]

Re: Ricoh mp9002 cleaning web finished after only 57k print (!!!) instead of 450k or

Hi there!
Had this phenomem once on a 1060, the webmotor was running all the time. Changed the complete web-unit and the prob was gone.
Greetings...

[luca72]

Re: Ricoh mp9002 cleaning web finished after only 57k print (!!!) instead of 450k or

Hi there!
Had this phenomem once on a 1060, the webmotor was running all the time. Changed the complete web-unit and the prob was gone.
Greetings...

hi zeldaman, thanks for the support.
every time that I replace the web on the martini series, I make 2 signs with a pen on the web, then I run it 5-6 times with sp5804-055 (output check web motor) and then I listen with the ear to the dc minimotor that turns , after I reassemble the black plastic cover I look if the signs have moved, I would say no, the web motor runs on demand, it does not remain active..

[luca72]

Re: Ricoh mp9002 cleaning web finished after only 57k print (!!!) instead of 450k or

Was it the correct web? Maybe replace complete web unit.

hi david, thanks for the suggestion.I also thought of a flaw in the production of the web, (for another not original).before throwing it I also unrolled it and measured it by hand to see how long it was, and it was 15-16 meters, do you have any feedback on this?and then, anyway, even if it was wrong / shorter, it is not possible that from 450k prints it even makes 57k ...

[davel]

Re: Ricoh mp9002 cleaning web finished after only 57k print (!!!) instead of 450k or

Wrong web, not genuine part, should it not be 32 metres.

[Coptech]

Re: Ricoh mp9002 cleaning web finished after only 57k print (!!!) instead of 450k or

Re-route the wiring to the web drive motor. If the ground side rubs through the insulation and makes intermittent contact with the frame, the motor will run during that time.

[copier tech]

Re: Ricoh mp9002 cleaning web finished after only 57k print (!!!) instead of 450k or

Another example where non genuine parts not worth using!

[luca72]

Re: Ricoh mp9002 cleaning web finished after only 57k print (!!!) instead of 450k or

Another example where non genuine parts not worth using!

hello, look, I have to be honest about those types of spare parts (web, p / c roller, claw, etc) we sometimes use non-original ones depending on the availability of the suppliers and the speed of delivery in our warehouse, and I never had problems, also because if that web lasted 3 months, the compatible one cost us a quarter, drums, fusers and other, strictly original.

[luca72]

Re: Ricoh mp9002 cleaning web finished after only 57k print (!!!) instead of 450k or

Re-route the wiring to the web drive motor. If the ground side rubs through the insulation and makes intermittent contact with the frame, the motor will run during that time.

hi, thanks for the tip, analyzing the effects well, I am convinced that you are right, these days I organize myself and go to visit the client, I am 100% sure to find the situation you described, actually five months ago I had replaced a rear cable of one of the two lamps that touched the frame and discharged to the ground, and jumped the current to the whole floor ... so as said Agatha Cristie: two clues make a evidence.

best regard

[slimslob]

Re: Ricoh mp9002 cleaning web finished after only 57k print (!!!) instead of 450k or

Re-route the wiring to the web drive motor. If the ground side rubs through the insulation and makes intermittent contact with the frame, the motor will run during that time.

I had a Savin 8075, Ricoh MP 7500, where the harness going to the web end switch was rubbing on a screw head for the bottom plate of the fusing unit. It would cause the machine to report a web end and disable. Put some spiral wrap around it and no more problem.

[luca72]

Re: Ricoh mp9002 cleaning web finished after only 57k print (!!!) instead of 450k or

I had a Savin 8075, Ricoh MP 7500, where the harness going to the web end switch was rubbing on a screw head for the bottom plate of the fusing unit. It would cause the machine to report a web end and disable. Put some spiral wrap around it and no more problem.

hi Slim, this explains why the previous time the 9002 signaled "web exhausted" instead of disassembling I saw the web that was physically in half and the SP signaled 60%

[Imprestik]

Re: Ricoh mp9002 cleaning web finished after only 57k print (!!!) instead of 450k or

Check SP1-903 to see if its on.

The web is designed to turn on after printing 7 pages or more.

If the above SP code is turned on the web will turn on all the time and leave a film of oil over both the hot roller and pressure roller. It will also cause the exact same issue as you have mentioned and get used up extremely quickly.

I cant comment on aftermarket parts as we have no supplier of them here in Australia and must use genuine parts only

[luca72]

Re: Ricoh mp9002 cleaning web finished after only 57k print (!!!) [CLOSED/SOLVED]

hi Slim, this explains why the previous time the 9002 signaled "web exhausted" instead of disassembling I saw the web that was physically in half and the SP signaled 60%

Hi everyone, I bet you had forgotten ...lol, joke, I know you have full balls ...
I waited a long time before thinking that the discussion could be closed, and to be sure the problem was solved.
therefore:
I have meticulously inspected all the cable routing of the fuser unit, mm by mm, no anomaly found, the contacts of the web advance motor do not touch anywhere on the frame.
on the occasion of interventions for other models at the customer, I passed every time to take a look at the consumtion web on this martini, and in fact the consumption of the cloth is now consistent with the performance.
conclusion:
for me, since they are machines that tend to stay on all the time, and we all know how good it is to restart an electronic so sophisticated from time to time, it must have been some spike in the power line that caused some sort of "glich" in the electronics of the mc, as when in the hulk film the gamma radiation machine no longer responded to commands and consequently the management of the web and who knows what else went to whore, and it was enough to restart it after the new web and started counting correctly.


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