Ricoh SP C842dn Black Drum Unit in a mp c4504

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  • wyo19
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    • Nov 2012
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    Ricoh SP C842dn Black Drum Unit in a mp c4504

    is it possible to use the pcu from an sp c842 in a c4504...
  • GIUBOSS
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    Re: Ricoh SP C842dn Black Drum Unit in a mp c4504

    From previous experiences with old models the units have obviously different codes and reversing them in the equipment will give you error codes or simply indicate to insert the unit correctly, but replacing the TD sensor with the right one should go.

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    • copier tech
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      Re: Ricoh SP C842dn Black Drum Unit in a mp c4504

      Originally posted by wyo19
      is it possible to use the pcu from an sp c842 in a c4504...
      Let us know if you find out.

      We've been using the xx04 drums in the xx03 with no modification required. The xx04 PCUs are significantly cheaper.


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      • mga
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        Re: Ricoh SP C842dn Black Drum Unit in a mp c4504

        Originally posted by wyo19
        is it possible to use the pcu from an sp c842 in a c4504...
        Give it a try please keep use posted
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        • fshead
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          Re: Ricoh SP C842dn Black Drum Unit in a mp c4504

          RICO SUAVE will often use a different td sensor or maybe it is just the wiring sequence"still have not had need nor time to explore the answer.
          I would compare rear of each drum b4 trying and if unit does not allow it to pop in all the way
          I would NOT force it.....I thought the mpc 04 drums were priced "reasonably"??

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          • Imprestik
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            #6
            Re: Ricoh SP C842dn Black Drum Unit in a mp c4504

            I have done this many times and it does work but there is a fair bit of work involved

            You use these kits from the MPC3004 up to the MP6004 with no issue

            but.....

            On the 3004 to the 4504 you must do the following,

            Split the PCU from the dev unit

            Remove the TD sensor and harness from the Kit PCDU and replace it from a original dev unit (harness and TD sensor). Please make sure you remove both the harness and TD sensor, if you just remove the TD sensor and plug it in the harness from the Kit PCDU IT WILL NOT WORK...... it must be done together

            You must then remove the lubricant bar from the PCU and set the tension back on it with the springs as the Kit PCDU's are not tensioned. If you do not do this expect a life of 10% before it fails. In saying this if you fit these PCDU's in the 5504 and 6004 you only need to do the TD sensor and harness.

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            • BLADE
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              #7
              Re: Ricoh SP C842dn Black Drum Unit in a mp c4504

              Originally posted by Imprestik
              I have done this many times and it does work but there is a fair bit of work involved

              You use these kits from the MPC3004 up to the MP6004 with no issue

              but.....

              On the 3004 to the 4504 you must do the following,

              Split the PCU from the dev unit

              Remove the TD sensor and harness from the Kit PCDU and replace it from a original dev unit (harness and TD sensor). Please make sure you remove both the harness and TD sensor, if you just remove the TD sensor and plug it in the harness from the Kit PCDU IT WILL NOT WORK...... it must be done together

              You must then remove the lubricant bar from the PCU and set the tension back on it with the springs as the Kit PCDU's are not tensioned. If you do not do this expect a life of 10% before it fails. In saying this if you fit these PCDU's in the 5504 and 6004 you only need to do the TD sensor and harness.
              Good work, I found your earlier post - any luck with the 03
              Last edited by BLADE; 03-30-2020, 08:42 AM.

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              • Imprestik
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                #8
                Re: Ricoh SP C842dn Black Drum Unit in a mp c4504

                Originally posted by BLADE
                Good work, I found your earlier post - any luck with the 03
                The only thing you can do with the 03's is split the PCDU apart, chuck the 04 dev unit out and use the 03 dev unit with the kit PCU.

                03 dev units are extremely cheap, unsure of the total cost savings though

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