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  • Mark Bbb
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • Jun 2012
    • 1662

    mpc3003 paper is bulging

    Hello,
    Problem is bulging paper.
    In such a way that, in the receiving tray, paper curls and pushes itself onto the floor.
    Customer says the problem is with A3 and A4.
    I think it is moisture paper (it is autumn here at this moment).
    Could a tray heater solves this problem?
    Could it be a bad fuser?
    Total counter 206K. and no fuser parts where yet replaced.
    Did you have seen this problem before?
    Thank you for helping us.
  • Codex
    Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • May 2008
    • 683

    #2
    Re: mpc3003 paper is bulging

    Hello... Have same problem here! It's moisture... Solved partially... Lay a book or similar in the exit tray so the paper didn't curl... Obviously it's not the final solution

    Inviato dal mio SM-G935F utilizzando Tapatalk
    Memento Audere Semper

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    • 8T2
      Trusted Tech

      250+ Posts
      • Aug 2015
      • 257

      #3
      Re: mpc3003 paper is bulging

      Most likely damp paper. You could check for condensation in fuser and exit sections to confirm.

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      • Mark Bbb
        Service Manager

        1,000+ Posts
        • Jun 2012
        • 1662

        #4
        Re: mpc3003 paper is bulging

        Originally posted by Codex
        Hello... Have same problem here! It's moisture... Solved partially... Lay a book or similar in the exit tray so the paper didn't curl... Obviously it's not the final solution

        Inviato dal mio SM-G935F utilizzando Tapatalk
        Codex, we have removed the receiving plate (can't find the part number), so paper now will "fall" onto D1491230
        For A3 that's good, but for A4 it's fall is to deep, so problem remains now due to height ...

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        • Gift
          Service Manager

          1,000+ Posts
          • Mar 2011
          • 2413

          #5
          Re: mpc3003 paper is bulging

          I think ricoh did a modification on the exit tray to avoid "paper rolls". I agree this is usually a seasonal phenomenon for some machines placed in enviroments with humidity issues during autumn, especially if the temperature drops big time during night if there's no room heating.

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          • Mark Bbb
            Service Manager

            1,000+ Posts
            • Jun 2012
            • 1662

            #6
            Re: mpc3003 paper is bulging

            Originally posted by 8T2
            Most likely damp paper. You could check for condensation in fuser and exit sections to confirm.

            Sent from my WAS-LX1 using Tapatalk
            I have seen drops in that area with older models, but would it be in this model too?
            Me not, have you seen it on this model?
            But, i will investigate that, thanks to remind me about that.

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            • Mark Bbb
              Service Manager

              1,000+ Posts
              • Jun 2012
              • 1662

              #7
              Re: mpc3003 paper is bulging

              Originally posted by Gift
              I think ricoh did a modification on the exit tray to avoid "paper rolls". I agree this is usually a seasonal phenomenon for some machines placed in enviroments with humidity issues during autumn, especially if the temperature drops big time during night if there's no room heating.
              Gift, the area where the machine is located is a very large entrance hall. I think temperature is constant, but it is possible it may not.
              I will investigate that, thank you.

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              • Mark Bbb
                Service Manager

                1,000+ Posts
                • Jun 2012
                • 1662

                #8
                Re: mpc3003 paper is bulging

                firmware is up to date

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                • Mark Bbb
                  Service Manager

                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 1662

                  #9
                  Re: mpc3003 paper is bulging

                  why oh why can't i upload images

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                  • Mark Bbb
                    Service Manager

                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 1662

                    #10

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                    • 8T2
                      Trusted Tech

                      250+ Posts
                      • Aug 2015
                      • 257

                      #11
                      Re: mpc3003 paper is bulging

                      Originally posted by Mark Bbb
                      I have seen drops in that area with older models, but would it be in this model too?
                      Me not, have you seen it on this model?
                      But, i will investigate that, thanks to remind me about that.
                      I have indeed...had one where the paper was so damp it was condensing and water drops were falling on the paper on its way out the machine. Steamed like a fresh cup of coffee if you interrupted a print job and even then the user was sceptical about it being the paper and not a fault on the machine lol

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                      • Mark Bbb
                        Service Manager

                        1,000+ Posts
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 1662

                        #12
                        Re: mpc3003 paper is bulging

                        Did someone replaced this and had no issues afterwards?

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                        • Gift
                          Service Manager

                          1,000+ Posts
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 2413

                          #13
                          Re: mpc3003 paper is bulging

                          Originally posted by Mark Bbb
                          Gift, the area where the machine is located is a very large entrance hall. I think temperature is constant, but it is possible it may not.
                          I will investigate that, thank you.
                          Entrance hall, sounds like there's regular air exchange if the frontdoor opens/close regulary, that might boost the humidity within the air even if the temperuture "feels" ok.
                          If you have some used MPCxxx3 units in your shop there's a good chance that you might find one with a modified exit tray - you cen determine the correct one if there's a pring loaded plate in it as cou can see from the parts numbers.

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                          • Mark Bbb
                            Service Manager

                            1,000+ Posts
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 1662

                            #14
                            Re: mpc3003 paper is bulging

                            I think this could be for more MPC models, because the receiving tray D1494495 looks quite the same.
                            Isn't it?

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                            • luca72
                              Field Supervisor

                              1,000+ Posts
                              • Oct 2017
                              • 1549

                              #15
                              Re: mpc3003 paper is bulging

                              Originally posted by Mark Bbb
                              Hello,
                              Problem is bulging paper.
                              In such a way that, in the receiving tray, paper curls and pushes itself onto the floor.
                              Customer says the problem is with A3 and A4.
                              I think it is moisture paper (it is autumn here at this moment).
                              Could a tray heater solves this problem?
                              Could it be a bad fuser?
                              Total counter 206K. and no fuser parts where yet replaced.
                              Did you have seen this problem before?
                              Thank you for helping us.
                              hi, try to activate / increase the running time of the fans in sp1, change the grams setting in "paper type" (put lighter), disable the "off fuser unit" function in user tools
                              "loneliness is an invention of the white man, when we are alone we talk to everything around us, we are never alone" (Ojibwa)

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