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  • Natsu
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2020
    • 9

    MPC4500 without fiery

    Hello,

    i just recovered an MPC4500, but the fiery (E5000) is dead. how to connect the copier live without going through the fiery?
  • davel
    Technician

    1,000+ Posts
    • Oct 2011
    • 1045

    #2
    Re: MPC4500 without fiery

    Reverse the Fiery installation instructions, there is an SP setting.

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    • slimslob
      Retired

      Site Contributor
      25,000+ Posts
      • May 2013
      • 35063

      #3
      Re: MPC4500 without fiery

      SP 5985-001 Return to default.

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      • Natsu
        Junior Member
        • Dec 2020
        • 9

        #4
        Re: MPC4500 without fiery

        Originally posted by slimslob
        SP 5985-001 Return to default.

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        • Phil B.
          Field Supervisor

          10,000+ Posts
          • Jul 2016
          • 22808

          #5
          Re: MPC4500 without fiery

          be careful.. being an end-user you can brick the machine if you aren't careful

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          • Natsu
            Junior Member
            • Dec 2020
            • 9

            #6
            Re: MPC4500 without fiery

            J ai toujours imprimer avec le fiery sur cette machine mais il vient de mourir et j ai vraiment besoin d omprimer en direct sans le fiery. Mais impossible depuis le port usb de l imprimante.

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            • Phil B.
              Field Supervisor

              10,000+ Posts
              • Jul 2016
              • 22808

              #7
              Re: MPC4500 without fiery

              Originally posted by Natsu
              J ai toujours imprimer avec le fiery sur cette machine mais il vient de mourir et j ai vraiment besoin d omprimer en direct sans le fiery. Mais impossible depuis le port usb de l imprimante.
              why post in french when all your other posts were in english ?

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              • tsbservice
                Field tech

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                • May 2007
                • 7635

                #8
                Re: MPC4500 without fiery

                Originally posted by Phil B.
                why post in french when all your other posts were in english ?
                And brocken French as my old school memory recalls.
                A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
                Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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                • slimslob
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                  • May 2013
                  • 35063

                  #9
                  Re: MPC4500 without fiery

                  Originally posted by Phil B.
                  why post in french when all your other posts were in english ?
                  Originally posted by tsbservice
                  And brocken French as my old school memory recalls.
                  Google translate, Google Translate, was able to translate it. I can't understand why those for whom English is not their natural language don't use it more often. It takes very little time.

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                  • slimslob
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                    • May 2013
                    • 35063

                    #10
                    Re: MPC4500 without fiery

                    Originally posted by Natsu
                    J ai toujours imprimer avec le fiery sur cette machine mais il vient de mourir et j ai vraiment besoin d omprimer en direct sans le fiery. Mais impossible depuis le port usb de l imprimante.

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                    • anothertech
                      Service Manager

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                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 1714

                      #11
                      Re: MPC4500 without fiery

                      I think I can help with this, I might PM them in German and make them translate it.

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                      • KenB
                        Geek Extraordinaire

                        2,500+ Posts
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 3946

                        #12
                        Re: MPC4500 without fiery

                        It's been a lot of years, but I once had this model machine (with a Fiery) where we needed to remove the Fiery and use the internal controller.

                        It was NOT as simple as it may seem. Since the machine always had the Fiery, I remember that we had to add memory, and probably some other hardware, just not sure what it was.
                        “I think you should treat good friends like a fine wine. That’s why I keep mine locked up in the basement.” - Tim Hawkins

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                        • slimslob
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                          • May 2013
                          • 35063

                          #13
                          Re: MPC4500 without fiery

                          Originally posted by KenB
                          It's been a lot of years, but I once had this model machine (with a Fiery) where we needed to remove the Fiery and use the internal controller.

                          It was NOT as simple as it may seem. Since the machine always had the Fiery, I remember that we had to add memory, and probably some other hardware, just not sure what it was.
                          Checking the installation guide in the service manual, the bottom of the 2 512MB dimm modules is removed when the fiery is installed so you will need 1 512MB DDR DIMM module. You might also need to remove the interface board for the fiery.

                          Added: If you use the RPCS print driver for Windows 7, you might not need the additional memory.

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                          • copier tech
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                            5,000+ Posts
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 7931

                            #14
                            Re: MPC4500 without fiery

                            Originally posted by Natsu
                            Hello,

                            i just recovered an MPC4500, but the fiery (E5000) is dead. how to connect the copier live without going through the fiery?

                            Here's the E5000 service manual, follow the installation but in reverse!

                            Color Controller E-5000 - Color Controller E-3000 Service Manual.pdf
                            Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                            For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                            www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                            • Natsu
                              Junior Member
                              • Dec 2020
                              • 9

                              #15
                              Re: MPC4500 without fiery

                              Hello,

                              can you help me i recovered this copier the fiery no longer works i followed the advice of other user. i add ram and set sp 5985 mode to 1 but cannot connect copier live to computer by connecting it to usb port.

                              Can you tell me how to do it

                              Thanks for your help

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