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  • sandmanmac
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    MP C401 - Cooling fan runs constantly

    Hi all.
    Just picked up a low meter MP C401 (20K). Looks and runs perfectly except the fuser cooling fan runs constantly.
    I did some looking on the forum, but can't find much direction on this - for any model really.
    Firmware is as current as I have available to me at the moment (mid 2019), so I suppose it could be that, but never run across the issue before, and I have quite a few of them out.

    Any suggestions?
    Thanks a lot
  • luca72
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    Re: MP C401 - Cooling fan runs constantly

    Originally posted by sandmanmac
    Hi all.
    Just picked up a low meter MP C401 (20K). Looks and runs perfectly except the fuser cooling fan runs constantly.
    I did some looking on the forum, but can't find much direction on this - for any model really.
    Firmware is as current as I have available to me at the moment (mid 2019), so I suppose it could be that, but never run across the issue before, and I have quite a few of them out.

    Any suggestions?
    Thanks a lot
    since the fans are activated by the board, I would try to update the firmware or overwrite it, and do some sp801 engine
    I see that the fuser fans are two, (fan5, fan6) connected via cn7 and cn8 to cn120 on the BCU, then there is fan7 (drive) always on cn120.. does it also work in stand-by?
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    • MIKON
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      #3
      Re: MP C401 - Cooling fan runs constantly

      Check sp-1950 4 and 5

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      • CopyBats
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        #4
        Re: MP C401 - Cooling fan runs constantly

        Im sure you probably already checked but are the ozone filters for the machine clean?
        If it works, don't touch it.

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        • Debs1964
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          #5
          Re: MP C401 - Cooling fan runs constantly

          Originally posted by sandmanmac
          Hi all.
          Just picked up a low meter MP C401 (20K). Looks and runs perfectly except the fuser cooling fan runs constantly.
          I did some looking on the forum, but can't find much direction on this - for any model really.
          Firmware is as current as I have available to me at the moment (mid 2019), so I suppose it could be that, but never run across the issue before, and I have quite a few of them out.

          Any suggestions?
          Thanks a lot
          Do you have it connected to a network? This sounds strange, but if the print driver is not PCL6 this can cause the fans to run constantly
          There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary maths and those who don't

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          • mga
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            #6
            Re: MP C401 - Cooling fan runs constantly

            Originally posted by sandmanmac
            Hi all.
            Just picked up a low meter MP C401 (20K). Looks and runs perfectly except the fuser cooling fan runs constantly.
            I did some looking on the forum, but can't find much direction on this - for any model really.
            Firmware is as current as I have available to me at the moment (mid 2019), so I suppose it could be that, but never run across the issue before, and I have quite a few of them out.

            Any suggestions?
            Thanks a lot
            Try this
            Switch to this mode to enhance noise reduction.In silent mode, scanning and copying/printing is slower than usual.
            Press [Home] (Operation panel screen illustration) at the bottom of the screen in the center.
            Flick the screen to the left, and then press the [User Tools] (Operation panel screen illustration) icon.
            Press [Machine Features].
            Press [System Settings].
            Check that [General Features] is selected.
            Press [Silent Mode].
            Press [On].
            Press [OK].
            Press [Exit].
            Press [User Tools] (Operation panel screen illustration) on the top right of the screen.
            Press [Home] (Operation panel screen illustration) at the bottom of the screen in the center.
            Regards Mark

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            • tsbservice
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              Re: MP C401 - Cooling fan runs constantly

              Originally posted by mga
              Try this
              Switch to this mode to enhance noise reduction.In silent mode, scanning and copying/printing is slower than usual.
              Press [Home] (Operation panel screen illustration) at the bottom of the screen in the center.
              Flick the screen to the left, and then press the [User Tools] (Operation panel screen illustration) icon.
              Press [Machine Features].
              Press [System Settings].
              Check that [General Features] is selected.
              Press [Silent Mode].
              Press [On].
              Press [OK].
              Press [Exit].
              Press [User Tools] (Operation panel screen illustration) on the top right of the screen.
              Press [Home] (Operation panel screen illustration) at the bottom of the screen in the center.
              Mark just hope Ricoh isn't like Brother
              On my few encounters with silent mode they(Brother MFPs) were pretty much annoying...killing me sooo slooowly
              Can't speak from experience about Ricoh but in any other brand I work picking used machine with strange behavior I would consider doing system clear/reset back to factory default. That may and actually saved my time in few cases when previous engineers changed some odd settings carelessly.
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              • mga
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                #8
                Re: MP C401 - Cooling fan runs constantly

                Originally posted by tsbservice
                Mark just hope Ricoh isn't like Brother
                On my few encounters with silent mode they(Brother MFPs) were pretty much annoying...killing me sooo slooowly
                Can't speak from experience about Ricoh but in any other brand I work picking used machine with strange behavior I would consider doing system clear/reset back to factory default. That may and actually saved my time in few cases when previous engineers changed some odd settings carelessly.
                Hi ivo
                All used Ricoh I sell I take back to default once papercut etc is installed unless removed properly the machine is a nightmare to set up.

                Stay safe friend.
                Regards Mark

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                • luca72
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                  #9
                  Re: MP C401 - Cooling fan runs constantly

                  Originally posted by Debs1964
                  Do you have it connected to a network? This sounds strange, but if the print driver is not PCL6 this can cause the fans to run constantly
                  interesting, then, if it happens to me, to do a test, if I unplug the cable does it stop?
                  "loneliness is an invention of the white man, when we are alone we talk to everything around us, we are never alone" (Ojibwa)

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                  • slimslob
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                    #10
                    Re: MP C401 - Cooling fan runs constantly

                    Originally posted by luca72
                    interesting, then, if it happens to me, to do a test, if I unplug the cable does it stop?
                    Yes if it happen to be SNMP queries that are kicking the fan on.

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                    • sandmanmac
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                      #11
                      Re: MP C401 - Cooling fan runs constantly

                      Thanks for all the replies!
                      No luck yet. I've done everything - except newer F/W.

                      To answer a few questions:
                      - Yes, it runs 24/7 constantly. Although, I can hear It cycle down every few minutes, but it starts up again before it even stops spinning .

                      - It is/ was connected to my home network, and PCL6 in use, but didn't make a difference when disconnected (interesting tip to keep in mind though).

                      - Ozone Filters are clean enough to eat off.....but I won't

                      - SP1950 are all set to 0

                      - Tried Silent mode setting but made no difference.

                      I think my next step will be to pour myself a cocktail, print off the non-defaults, and try a full memory clear, and see what happens

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                      • tsbservice
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                        #12
                        Re: MP C401 - Cooling fan runs constantly

                        Cooling fans are usually run by main board. Can you unplug the fan in question from main board and temporary plug in another fan in his place(assuming you have fan from another machine) not really needed to be exactly the same as long as its connector fits. That would completely rull out fan and its connector/or not.
                        I know it's wild but just throwing ideas in hope to help...
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                        • sandmanmac
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                          Re: MP C401 - Cooling fan runs constantly

                          Originally posted by Debs1964
                          Do you have it connected to a network? This sounds strange, but if the print driver is not PCL6 this can cause the fans to run constantly
                          So I just got back to this issue after some time, and thought I'd dig a little deeper.
                          First of all, Debs, You are correct after-all!
                          (On a personal note, I've been meaning to say how nice it is to have you back around here adding your expertise to the forum!!)

                          I think I may just not have given it enough time when I tried the first time, but I'll be damned if the fan doesn't stop after about a minute when I disconnect the network cable! (BTW, it's the cooling fan on the controller board)

                          However, it doesn't seem to have anything to do with drivers specifically
                          It starts up the second that I connect the network cable, even with no driver installed on my PC pointed towards the machine. I've tried changing the IP address on the machine, and Setting DHCP. No change.
                          It was connected to a wireless range extender, and I tried it connected directly to my router, and a different cable. No change.

                          Performed complete Memory clear, and re-entered ALL non-defaults.....an exercise in futility!

                          Luca suggested overwriting the F/W, but if I try to do so, it just says 'complete' without doing anything, and I don't have any older versions to try rolling it back.

                          Any other suggestions for this one?

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                          • slimslob
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                            Re: MP C401 - Cooling fan runs constantly

                            Originally posted by sandmanmac
                            So I just got back to this issue after some time, and thought I'd dig a little deeper.
                            First of all, Debs, You are correct after-all!
                            (On a personal note, I've been meaning to say how nice it is to have you back around here adding your expertise to the forum!!)

                            I think I may just not have given it enough time when I tried the first time, but I'll be damned if the fan doesn't stop after about a minute when I disconnect the network cable! (BTW, it's the cooling fan on the controller board)

                            However, it doesn't seem to have anything to do with drivers specifically
                            It starts up the second that I connect the network cable, even with no driver installed on my PC pointed towards the machine. I've tried changing the IP address on the machine, and Setting DHCP. No change.
                            It was connected to a wireless range extender, and I tried it connected directly to my router, and a different cable. No change.

                            Performed complete Memory clear, and re-entered ALL non-defaults.....an exercise in futility!

                            Luca suggested overwriting the F/W, but if I try to do so, it just says 'complete' without doing anything, and I don't have any older versions to try rolling it back.

                            Any other suggestions for this one?
                            Does the network jack that it is connected support PoE, Power over Ethernet? Only thing that I can thing of. If it does inserting a small work group switch that does not provide PoE should block it.

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                            • sandmanmac
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                              Re: MP C401 - Cooling fan runs constantly

                              Originally posted by slimslob
                              Does the network jack that it is connected support PoE, Power over Ethernet? Only thing that I can thing of. If it does inserting a small work group switch that does not provide PoE should block it.
                              Darn it, Tim!
                              That sounded like such a promising idea that I ran out to my car to grab a switch, but as soon as I connected the machine to it - even BEFORE connecting to the network, the fan started spinning!
                              I also tried connecting directly to my laptop. Same thing

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