Speed/processor performance

[SteinarN]

I am printing out several large technical manuals on my old MP C2051. The manuals are pdf files of various sizes, up to say 50MB for a manual of say 100 sides for an average page size of 0.5Mb. But when printing them and watching the data sent to the printer they increase in size to say 20MB or more per page on average. Those pages contain graphics, there can be tens of such pages in a row.
What I see is that the printer seems to be slow to process those large size pages containing graphics. It prints out a few pages, then wait for a considerable amunt of time, like it is processing the next few pages before it prints out a few more pages.

I print out at highest quality setting though. Plain text prints out at about 11 ppm at A4 LEF with highest quality settings. But when I feed the machine with those heavy graphic pages the average speed gets cut in half, so only like 5 ppm.

Is this what can be expected from this type of printer? Is it the limitations of the ancient cpu in this machine that is the reason for the slow process speed?
What Ricoh model would have a (significantly) more powerfull process capability?

[Phil B.]

Re: Speed/processor performance

I am printing out several large technical manuals on my old MP C2051. The manuals are pdf files of various sizes, up to say 50MB for a manual of say 100 sides for an average page size of 0.5Mb. But when printing them and watching the data sent to the printer they increase in size to say 20MB or more per page on average. Those pages contain graphics, there can be tens of such pages in a row.
What I see is that the printer seems to be slow to process those large size pages containing graphics. It prints out a few pages, then wait for a considerable amount of time, like it is processing the next few pages before it prints out a few more pages.

I print out at highest quality setting though. Plain text prints out at about 11 ppm at A4 LEF with highest quality settings. But when I feed the machine with those heavy graphic pages the average speed gets cut in half, so only like 5 ppm.

Is this what can be expected of this type of printer? Is it the limitations of the ancient cpu in this machine that is the reason for the slow process speed?
What Ricoh model would have a (significantly) more powerful process capability?

if the pages are PDF's then yes time to build the pages can take some time.. layers can also slow the PPM down.

what program are you using to print?

duplexing adds more time to output.

are there colors involved?

[SteinarN]

Re: Speed/processor performance

if the pages are PDF's then yes time to build the pages can take some time.. layers can also slow the PPM down.

Damn, you are quick!

What model of a similar (newer) Ricoh printer would have a more powerfull process capability? And would it help much on the speed when printing such pdf files?

[SteinarN]

Re: Speed/processor performance

if the pages are PDF's then yes time to build the pages can take some time.. layers can also slow the PPM down.

what program are you using to print?

duplexing adds more time to output.

are there colors involved?

I open the pdf's in Foxit reader, and print from there with Ricoh Universal driver V4.31.
Am printing duplex, yes, but still, compared to plain text with duplex, it is much slower.
Yes colors too.

I have printed out many individual manuals which combine into a large one today, like chapters. The individual chapters are produced by different persons over a few years using different programs/methods to do the grapics it seems. Some of those individual manuals print out at max speed, 11 ppm, but some are excruciatingly slow, it seems the worst one was containing simple graphics that looked like it (the graphics) originally had been scanned into some files and then put into the pdf. 1.5GB sent to the printer for 150 pages. One of that GB was for only 50 of those pages.

[Phil B.]

Re: Speed/processor performance

Damn, you are quick!

What model of a similar (newer) Ricoh printer would have a more powerfull process capability? And would it help much on the speed when printing such pdf files?

Dunno I have been out of richo for a bit.
Did you check the richo.com websites?
Maybe Slimslob can lead you to what info you seek.
He's the go to guy for richo type shit.
Damn I must admit you are catching on pretty quick.
Good job brother!

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[SteinarN]

Re: Speed/processor performance

Dunno I have been out of richo for a bit.
Did you check the richo.com websites?
Maybe Slimslob can lead you to what info you seek.
He's the go to guy for richo type shit.
Damn I must admit you are catching on pretty quick.
Good job brother!

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No, havent checked the web site. Am not looking for a new (like factory new) printer anyway.
I remember someone said in my first topic here that the controller that had this turtle speed, ancient processor that is in mine machine had some name, and that the next generation had a "+" added to that name.
But I have no idea what printers have that next gen controller.
Thank you brother!

[copier tech]

Re: Speed/processor performance

I am printing out several large technical manuals on my old MP C2051. The manuals are pdf files of various sizes, up to say 50MB for a manual of say 100 sides for an average page size of 0.5Mb. But when printing them and watching the data sent to the printer they increase in size to say 20MB or more per page on average. Those pages contain graphics, there can be tens of such pages in a row.
What I see is that the printer seems to be slow to process those large size pages containing graphics. It prints out a few pages, then wait for a considerable amunt of time, like it is processing the next few pages before it prints out a few more pages.

I print out at highest quality setting though. Plain text prints out at about 11 ppm at A4 LEF with highest quality settings. But when I feed the machine with those heavy graphic pages the average speed gets cut in half, so only like 5 ppm.

Is this what can be expected from this type of printer? Is it the limitations of the ancient cpu in this machine that is the reason for the slow process speed?
What Ricoh model would have a (significantly) more powerfull process capability?

As others have said try another PDF reader. Also updating the firmware & the latest PCL6 driver will make a difference especially if still on the factory firmware.

However if you need to print these larger pdf files often you should look for a copier with a fiery controller.

[SteinarN]

Re: Speed/processor performance

I found the post, it was slimslob.
He said the MP C2051 had a GW controller, that's the one with the turtle processor. The next one is the GW+ controller. Would have liked to know what processor is in that one.

[SteinarN]

Re: Speed/processor performance

As others have said try another PDF reader. Also updating the firmware & the latest PCL6 driver will make a difference especially if still on the factory firmware.

I can make a test with Adobe.
The FW is the newest, I bought from you but the machine already had all the newest, hehe.
Am using the latest universal driver from Ricoh. Not the dedicated driver for this machine though.
The webside stated that the universal driver was the prefered one I seems to remember. I'll check that though.

Edit: The webside do not say that the universal driver is the prefered one.

[Phil B.]

Re: Speed/processor performance

I can make a test with Adobe.
The FW is the newest, I bought from you but the machine already had all the newest, hehe.
Am using the latest universal driver from Ricoh. Not the dedicated driver for this machine though.
The webside stated that the universal driver was the prefered one I seems to remember. I'll check that though.

Edit: The webside do not say that the universal driver is the prefered one.

So what drover was?

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[slimslob]

Re: Speed/processor performance

Check the Print Quality Settings under Printing Preferences. There should be a setting to choose between raster and vector graphics. Try changing that setting and see what happens. Many years ago I had a church with an even older Ricoh color MFP who called me because the were trying to print their church bulletin for Sunday morning. It had been over 10 minutes since they had started the job and the Ricoh was just displaying processing please wait. I was nearby and got there about 10 minutes later, just as it finished printing an 11X17 double sided sheet. What would be the front cover after it was folded was most graphics. In the past they had them commercially printed but the secretary had been out sick most of the week and the order did not get made. I changed the graphics setting and it went from taking 30 minutes to print to taking 30 seconds.

[sandmanmac]

Re: Speed/processor performance

If you let windows install the printer automatically, it installs the printer using the WSD port, rather than TCP/IP.
WSD is ALWAYS desperately slow -particularly with PDf's

[KenB]

Re: Speed/processor performance

If you let windows install the printer automatically, it installs the printer using the WSD port, rather than TCP/IP.
WSD is ALWAYS desperately slow -particularly with PDf's

[slimslob]

Re: Speed/processor performance

If you let windows install the printer automatically, it installs the printer using the WSD port, rather than TCP/IP.
WSD is ALWAYS desperately slow -particularly with PDf's

And then there is the Microsoft PCL6 Class driver that it will automatically install.

[anothertech]

Re: Speed/processor performance

If the machine has the Post Script option you could try the Post Script driver. If not, try the PCL 5 and PCL 6 drivers on the Ricoh download page. Also as sandmanmac pointed out, make sure you are using the TCP/IP port.