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  • phucnguyen
    Technician
    • Jan 2021
    • 17

    5001: Paper is wrinkled and jammed on the ADF

    I have a problem with ADF ricoh 5000 paper jam, it gets stuck when I pull the paper in, then it gets wrinkled and jammed like in the picture, can you show
    how to fix
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  • Phil B.
    Field Supervisor

    10,000+ Posts
    • Jul 2016
    • 22808

    #2
    Re: 5001: Paper is wrinkled and jammed on the ADF

    Originally posted by phucnguyen
    I have a problem with ADF ricoh 5000 paper jam, it gets stuck when I pull the paper in, then it gets wrinkled and jammed like in the picture, can you show
    how to fix
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]49164[/ATTACH]



    what's the jam code?

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    • phucnguyen
      Technician
      • Jan 2021
      • 17

      #3
      Re: 5001: Paper is wrinkled and jammed on the ADF

      I don't know how much the code is because this machine is far away from me but I had to go there to fix a paper jam that my knowledge is limited

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      • Phil B.
        Field Supervisor

        10,000+ Posts
        • Jul 2016
        • 22808

        #4
        Re: 5001: Paper is wrinkled and jammed on the ADF

        Originally posted by phucnguyen
        I don't know how much the code is because this machine is far away from me but I had to go there to fix a paper jam that my knowledge is limited
        you need the code to be able to know where to look for the problem

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        • MIGUELMARCHENA
          Trusted Tech

          Site Contributor
          100+ Posts
          • Feb 2018
          • 173

          #5
          Re: 5001: Paper is wrinkled and jammed on the ADF

          it seemed, it was a hook or clip

          when they got jammed, they took the leaf, i lifted a few small acetates in the step and there is the problem for not using the "p" bead blue

          you must remove the cap, take out the hook or clip or broken piece of blade.

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          • phucnguyen
            Technician
            • Jan 2021
            • 17

            #6
            Re: 5001: Paper is wrinkled and jammed on the ADF

            can you suggest me the possible problem in the above situation, thanks

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            • phucnguyen
              Technician
              • Jan 2021
              • 17

              #7
              Re: 5001: Paper is wrinkled and jammed on the ADF

              Do I have to open the lid right where the wheel is?

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              • Phil B.
                Field Supervisor

                10,000+ Posts
                • Jul 2016
                • 22808

                #8
                Re: 5001: Paper is wrinkled and jammed on the ADF

                Originally posted by phucnguyen
                can you suggest me the possible problem in the above situation, thanks
                yes something is out of place....

                but the big question is WHAT is the problem.... too many techs replace the clip then a few days later they have to go out again on the same problem .

                you need to look at the ERROR log and determine the ROOT CAUSE of the problem.

                do you have a service manual for this machine

                do you have adf parts

                what are the page counts on the ADF parts?

                are the rollers and belts smooth?

                i doubt it is just a clip out of place.. that would give it SMALL crimp in the paper... not a large one like your small picture shows.

                are you trained on any ricoh products?

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                • phucnguyen
                  Technician
                  • Jan 2021
                  • 17

                  #9
                  Re: 5001: Paper is wrinkled and jammed on the ADF

                  I don't specialize in ricoh machines but also know how to disassemble this ricoh machine, I was asked by my boss to fix it but I am not sure because this machine is far from where I live

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                  • Phil B.
                    Field Supervisor

                    10,000+ Posts
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 22808

                    #10
                    Re: 5001: Paper is wrinkled and jammed on the ADF

                    Originally posted by phucnguyen
                    I don't specialize in ricoh machines but also know how to disassemble this ricoh machine, I was asked by my boss to fix it but I am not sure because this machine is far from where I live
                    RTFM

                    then carry your ass out there and put a set of eyes on the problem. there are MANY things that could be the reason for the problem.

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                    • slimslob
                      Retired

                      Site Contributor
                      25,000+ Posts
                      • May 2013
                      • 35063

                      #11
                      Re: 5001: Paper is wrinkled and jammed on the ADF

                      Originally posted by phucnguyen
                      I don't know how much the code is because this machine is far away from me but I had to go there to fix a paper jam that my knowledge is limited
                      The jam code is displayed on the screen when the jam happens. It is in the form of the letter J followed by a 3 digit number. It is also listed in the original jam history in the service. Print the service report.

                      The code tells us 2 things.
                      1. WHAT SENSOR DETECTED THE JAM
                      2. WHETHER IT IS A LEAD EDGE JAM OR TRAIL EDGE JAM

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                      • Phil B.
                        Field Supervisor

                        10,000+ Posts
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 22808

                        #12
                        Re: 5001: Paper is wrinkled and jammed on the ADF

                        Originally posted by slimslob
                        The jam code is displayed on the screen when the jam happens. It is in the form of the letter J followed by a 3 digit number. It is also listed in the original jam history in the service. Print the service report.

                        The code tells us 2 things.
                        1. WHAT SENSOR DETECTED THE JAM
                        2. WHETHER IT IS A LEAD EDGE JAM OR TRAIL EDGE JAM
                        he needs to call the customer AT THE VERY LEAST.. If He were I, I'd pack my tools jump in the car ( it'll get him away from the boss ) and go put a set of eyes on the problem.

                        asking a end user to print out and send the report to him IMHO makes him look lazy and puts a bad light on the company. Besides most customer will flat out refuse to do it.

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                        • luca72
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                          • Oct 2017
                          • 1555

                          #13
                          Re: 5001: Paper is wrinkled and jammed on the ADF

                          Originally posted by phucnguyen
                          I have a problem with ADF ricoh 5000 paper jam, it gets stuck when I pull the paper in, then it gets wrinkled and jammed like in the picture, can you show
                          how to fix
                          [ATTACH=CONFIG]49164[/ATTACH]


                          seen from this way, without codes, it seems there is some object in the paper path, or the customer has tried to clean the optics, and has incorrectly mounted the slide and its plastic, on the machine
                          "loneliness is an invention of the white man, when we are alone we talk to everything around us, we are never alone" (Ojibwa)

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                          • Jettdog
                            Technician
                            • May 2021
                            • 40

                            #14
                            Re: 5001: Paper is wrinkled and jammed on the ADF

                            Originally posted by phucnguyen
                            I don't specialize in ricoh machines but also know how to disassemble this ricoh machine, I was asked by my boss to fix it but I am not sure because this machine is far from where I live

                            You do now.

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                            • slimslob
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                              • May 2013
                              • 35063

                              #15
                              Re: 5001: Paper is wrinkled and jammed on the ADF

                              Originally posted by phucnguyen
                              I have a problem with ADF ricoh 5000 paper jam, it gets stuck when I pull the paper in, then it gets wrinkled and jammed like in the picture, can you show
                              how to fix
                              [ATTACH=CONFIG]49164[/ATTACH]


                              Looking at the picture I can determine one thing, the paper pickup roller was still in the down position and in contact with the original when it should not have been. I would say that the original feed had been removed, disassembled and then improperly re-assembled. Either that or the cam that lifts it was not working correctly, but it can be seen in the picture and is in the proper position.

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