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  • bsm2
    IT Manager

    25,000+ Posts
    • Feb 2008
    • 29886

    #16
    Re: SMTP Authentication causes error

    Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
    For the record, rthonpm has given me about 100 pieces of advice and he's batting .1000 so far. He's explained to me before why not to use a pubic DNS server in this situation but I forget why at the moment.
    Another No Solution Bravo Rookie

    BTW .1 is not very good

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    • bsm2
      IT Manager

      25,000+ Posts
      • Feb 2008
      • 29886

      #17
      Re: SMTP Authentication causes error

      Btw here the answer but I doubt is applies in this case.

      This means it will give you internet access, but it will not resolve local DNS. It may also prevent your machines from talking to Active Directory. Computers won't be able to pull policies, logins will be really slow and they could lose relationship with the domain

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      • bsm2
        IT Manager

        25,000+ Posts
        • Feb 2008
        • 29886

        #18
        Re: SMTP Authentication causes error

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        • copier tech
          Field Supervisor

          5,000+ Posts
          • Jan 2014
          • 8132

          #19
          Re: SMTP Authentication causes error

          Originally posted by jonmdci
          I have been working on this issue for over a day now. We installed a MPC6004to replace a MPC5503. On both machines I am unable to get scan to email to work if SMTP Authentication is on. Customer uses gmail and I set up the gmail smtp server on port 465 (I have tried 587 as well. No change). I entered a valid gmail account and password but whenever I attempt to scan to email I get the error "Authentication with the destination has failed". I have logged into the gmail account successfully so the password is correct. I have also tried using other smtp servers with authentication and all have the same error. The 5503 is now at my office and connected to my network and is having the same issues and there is nothing on the network side blocking anything. It seems like it must be a setting on the copiers that is the issue but neither I nor my service manager can seem to figure it out.

          I just turned off authentication and tried using my smtp server on port 25 and this works, but when i turned authentication back on the error reappears.

          I am an IT guy not a tech but as I stated, I have been working with the service techs and manager and we are all thoroughly stumped.

          Any help or even just new ideas would be greatly appreciated.
          Assuming you have entered all the SMTP details correctly & the network setting, gateway, DNS etc are all correct.

          Log into that gmail account from a PC & check to see if you have received any security warning emails, if you have choose the option 'this was me' then try another scan from the copier.

          This is also a good troubleshooting tool, do you get a successful connection message?

          connection-succesful.jpg

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          • COPIERMAN
            Senior Tech

            500+ Posts
            • Jun 2009
            • 559

            #20
            Re: SMTP Authentication causes error

            i found if secure connection ssl is not turn on in smtp server gmail will not work. My settings i use is smtp.gmail.com port 587 or 465 and turn on secure connection then in smtp auth. i put gmail email in both user and email and then password for gmail in password section. I also turn on auto specify sender name and put administrator email address. then of course in gmail account turn on less secure apps. So far has work for me.

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            • jonmdci
              Technician
              • Jul 2021
              • 22

              #21
              Re: SMTP Authentication causes error

              The second DNS is set to 8.8.8.8. I just double checked it. Still no luck.

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              • jonmdci
                Technician
                • Jul 2021
                • 22

                #22
                Re: SMTP Authentication causes error

                I have verified that the emails are entered @gmail.com and have logged into the accounts using the passwords to verify that the passwords are correct.

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                • jonmdci
                  Technician
                  • Jul 2021
                  • 22

                  #23
                  Re: SMTP Authentication causes error

                  Originally posted by slimslob
                  From what I understand, Google has been trying to do away with support for "less secure device" since before the start of the year. You might try the following from Google support. Send email from a printer, scanner, or app - Google Workspace Admin Help

                  Unfortunately this is not an option as this is a church and only use free google accounts not workplace. Thanks

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                  • jonmdci
                    Technician
                    • Jul 2021
                    • 22

                    #24
                    Re: SMTP Authentication causes error

                    Originally posted by bsm2
                    Screen shot please
                    Screenshots of what? Not sure what you're looking for. Please respond and I will get them. Thanks

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                    • jonmdci
                      Technician
                      • Jul 2021
                      • 22

                      #25
                      Re: SMTP Authentication causes error

                      Originally posted by rthonpm
                      If the machine is in any kind of Active Directory domain network, do NOT do this.
                      Not an Active Directory environment. Good advice tho

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                      • jonmdci
                        Technician
                        • Jul 2021
                        • 22

                        #26
                        Re: SMTP Authentication causes error

                        Originally posted by tsbservice
                        Try to remove Verify Server Certificate check box if any.
                        Box is unchecked.

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                        • jonmdci
                          Technician
                          • Jul 2021
                          • 22

                          #27
                          Re: SMTP Authentication causes error

                          Originally posted by copier tech
                          Assuming you have entered all the SMTP details correctly & the network setting, gateway, DNS etc are all correct.

                          Log into that gmail account from a PC & check to see if you have received any security warning emails, if you have choose the option 'this was me' then try another scan from the copier.

                          This is also a good troubleshooting tool, do you get a successful connection message?

                          [ATTACH=CONFIG]49788[/ATTACH]

                          As always check the firmware is on the latest.
                          I have checked and verified all security emails on the account. Yes I do get a successful connection message. Thank you

                          Service Manager updated firmware on both machines
                          Last edited by jonmdci; 07-23-2021, 03:30 PM. Reason: Did not answer firmware question.

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                          • Debs1964
                            Service Manager

                            1,000+ Posts
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 1689

                            #28
                            Re: SMTP Authentication causes error

                            I don't know whether this will work with Gmail, but it's one of the settings I always ensure with Office 365.

                            On the Web Image Monitor, go to device management, configuration, then, under security, select SSL/TLS, under SSL/TLS version ensure that only TLS1,2 is active (TLS1.1, TLS1.0 and SSL3.0 set to inactive).

                            If that doesn't work, try changing SP5-860-022 to ON
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                            • mga
                              Copier Technician

                              Site Contributor
                              1,000+ Posts
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 1393

                              #29
                              Re: SMTP Authentication causes error

                              Originally posted by jonmdci
                              I have been working on this issue for over a day now. We installed a MPC6004to replace a MPC5503. On both machines I am unable to get scan to email to work if SMTP Authentication is on. Customer uses gmail and I set up the gmail smtp server on port 465 (I have tried 587 as well. No change). I entered a valid gmail account and password but whenever I attempt to scan to email I get the error "Authentication with the destination has failed". I have logged into the gmail account successfully so the password is correct. I have also tried using other smtp servers with authentication and all have the same error. The 5503 is now at my office and connected to my network and is having the same issues and there is nothing on the network side blocking anything. It seems like it must be a setting on the copiers that is the issue but neither I nor my service manager can seem to figure it out.

                              I just turned off authentication and tried using my smtp server on port 25 and this works, but when i turned authentication back on the error reappears.

                              I am an IT guy not a tech but as I stated, I have been working with the service techs and manager and we are all thoroughly stumped.

                              Any help or even just new ideas would be greatly appreciated.
                              SSL needs to be on and it's port 465

                              Also check less secure app as Google turns off if not used within a week also check inbox if any security messages
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                              • mga
                                Copier Technician

                                Site Contributor
                                1,000+ Posts
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 1393

                                #30
                                Re: SMTP Authentication causes error

                                Originally posted by copier tech
                                Assuming you have entered all the SMTP details correctly & the network setting, gateway, DNS etc are all correct.

                                Log into that gmail account from a PC & check to see if you have received any security warning emails, if you have choose the option 'this was me' then try another scan from the copier.

                                This is also a good troubleshooting tool, do you get a successful connection message?

                                [ATTACH=CONFIG]49788[/ATTACH]

                                As always check the firmware is on the latest.
                                Ricoh this week have done loads of package firmware updates on octopus
                                Regards Mark

                                FOR TRADE AND END USER SERVICE CALLS PLEASE VISIT WEB SITE FOR CONTACT DETAILS. COVERING GREATER LONDON {UK} AND ALL SURROUNDING COUNTIES.

                                RICOH, CANON, KYOCERA, KONICA, SHARP, HP/SAMSUNG BROTHER, LEXMARK.

                                https://copierservices.simdif.com

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