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  • KeviM
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    Screwdriver of choice - Ricoh

    Not to sure if this is the right section for this but...

    For Ricoh machines what is your recommended screwdriver of choice?

    I'm currently using a CK Philips 2 x 250mm shaft, overall length is 350mm. Using this for more than 15 years. It's a good screwdriver but it cams out alot. I read that JIS might be better.

    Thank you in advance
  • copiertec
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    Re: Screwdriver of choice - Ricoh

    The best way to tell if the screw is JIS type is to look for a small round indentation on the head, if they do have the indent, your best bet is to use a JIS screwdriver otherwise it can strip the screws.

    Phillips Bits Vs. JIS Bits: What's the difference?

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    • slimslob
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      I satarted using a Craftsman #2 Phillips with 12 inch blade over 20 years ago when the Apeco Bond Copier, relabeled Royal RBC1, first came out. It could loosen the cover screws without having to use an impact driver. You could actually see the torque build up in the length of the blade until the screws popped loose. Also back then Craftsman had a lifetime guarantee on their tools. If a tip became worn to where it did not hold to the screws properly, just take it to the nearest Sears or Orchard Supply and they would replace it free.

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      • anothertech
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        Re: Screwdriver of choice - Ricoh

        Originally posted by slimslob
        I satarted using a Craftsman #2 Phillips with 12 inch blade over 20 years ago when the Apeco Bond Copier, relabeled Royal RBC1, first came out. It could loosen the cover screws without having to use an impact driver. You could actually see the torque build up in the length of the blade until the screws popped loose. Also back then Craftsman had a lifetime guarantee on their tools. If a tip became worn to where it did not hold to the screws properly, just take it to the nearest Sears or Orchard Supply and they would replace it free.
        That old Royal was a good machine.

        I use this Vessel No.220 Ball-Grip Screwdriver (JIS) (+2)x200 300mm Long

        $14.00 US at Amazon.

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        • slimslob
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          Originally posted by anothertech
          That old Royal was a good machine.
          Great plastic pop right after maintenance.

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          • mga
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            Re: Screwdriver of choice - Ricoh

            Originally posted by KeviM
            Not to sure if this is the right section for this but...

            For Ricoh machines what is your recommended screwdriver of choice?

            I'm currently using a CK Philips 2 x 250mm shaft, overall length is 350mm. Using this for more than 15 years. It's a good screwdriver but it cams out alot. I read that JIS might be better.

            Thank you in advance
            I've used for years and think the best
            Snap on ratchet long and short shafts and 5.5mm magnetic nut driver
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            • slimslob
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              One thing about Ricoh, they always have a lot of hex head screws that tend to fall off even a magnetized #2 Phillips. Therefore a magnetized 5.5mm nut driver is a must.
              Hex Nut Driver Strong Magnetic Head Hollow Shaft Lengthened Sleeve Screwdriver Red Plastic Handle Bit Holding Screwdriver(5.5mm) - - Amazon.com

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              • tsbservice
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                Re: Screwdriver of choice - Ricoh

                Originally posted by anothertech
                That old Royal was a good machine.

                I use this Vessel No.220 Ball-Grip Screwdriver (JIS) (+2)x200 300mm Long

                $14.00 US at Amazon.
                Vessel is Japanese company and I'm about to purchase their screwdriver(to replace my Wera) from some time. Thanks for heads up.
                A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
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                • KeviM
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                  Re: Screwdriver of choice - Ricoh

                  Originally posted by tsbservice
                  Vessel is Japanese company and I'm about to purchase their screwdriver(to replace my Wera) from some time. Thanks for heads up.
                  How was your wera screwdriver? I hear that it's 1 of the better screwdrivers out there but I'm not sure how good it is for photocopier technical repairs

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                  • KeviM
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                    Re: Screwdriver of choice - Ricoh

                    Originally posted by anothertech
                    That old Royal was a good machine.

                    I use this Vessel No.220 Ball-Grip Screwdriver (JIS) (+2)x200 300mm Long

                    $14.00 US at Amazon.

                    Looking for these... Unfortunately vessel only just entered the South African market and they only have short and standard length screwdrivers available. Upto 150mm in length which is a bit short for me

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                    • KeviM
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                      Re: Screwdriver of choice - Ricoh

                      Originally posted by slimslob
                      One thing about Ricoh, they always have a lot of hex head screws that tend to fall off even a magnetized #2 Phillips. Therefore a magnetized 5.5mm nut driver is a must.
                      Hex Nut Driver Strong Magnetic Head Hollow Shaft Lengthened Sleeve Screwdriver Red Plastic Handle Bit Holding Screwdriver(5.5mm) - - Amazon.com
                      That's something else I've been meaning to get. Something I wanted to know, I believe the Ricoh machines take a 5.5mm nut driver, is it the same for the smaller screws like those that go on the MP201 and the larger screws that go on the MP6500 or are 2 different size nut drivers required and if so what sizes?

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                      • KeviM
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                        Re: Screwdriver of choice - Ricoh

                        Originally posted by mga
                        I've used for years and think the best
                        Snap on ratchet long and short shafts and 5.5mm magnetic nut driver
                        Snap on is an excellent brand. Prices are a bit hectic but it's an excellent investment

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                        • tsbservice
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                          Re: Screwdriver of choice - Ricoh

                          Originally posted by KeviM
                          How was your wera screwdriver? I hear that it's 1 of the better screwdrivers out there but I'm not sure how good it is for photocopier technical repairs
                          Mine is Wera Kraftform plus. Lasertip gives very good grip even on small screws. It's not JIS standard though that's why I consider Vessel.
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                          • rthonpm
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                            Re: Screwdriver of choice - Ricoh

                            Originally posted by KeviM
                            That's something else I've been meaning to get. Something I wanted to know, I believe the Ricoh machines take a 5.5mm nut driver, is it the same for the smaller screws like those that go on the MP201 and the larger screws that go on the MP6500 or are 2 different size nut drivers required and if so what sizes?
                            The lengths of the screws may be different, but the head is the same size. Years ago I had one of the 5.5mm Ames Supply screwdrivers, which was the most reliable one I've ever had. Left it at a customer and never figured out which one so I've had to make due with a few others since then, going to check the recommendations here since the magnets in my current set are far too weak.

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                            • slimslob
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                              Re: Screwdriver of choice - Ricoh

                              Originally posted by KeviM
                              That's something else I've been meaning to get. Something I wanted to know, I believe the Ricoh machines take a 5.5mm nut driver, is it the same for the smaller screws like those that go on the MP201 and the larger screws that go on the MP6500 or are 2 different size nut drivers required and if so what sizes?
                              THe only thing that I have encountered that uses a different size than 5.5mm is the Plockmatic. A number of different thread sizes and types but all 5.5mm heads.

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