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  • Maged_elagamy
    Technician
    • Mar 2021
    • 34

    Loading Toner RICOH MP C305 !!!

    a RICOH MP C305 giving loading toner msg and there is no magenta color on printed paper

    well at first i supposed it's an easy task
    here what i did
    i checked the M toner cartridge and it's fine
    PCU is ok as well
    i thought it must be toner supply spiral in the hopper
    but after i reached it after some efforts i found it's not supplying toner for some reasons
    i cleaned it well and gave it a try but the problem is the same
    so i replaced the M hopper to just to be sure but the same problem is present
    finally i replaced the PCU ( and i'm sure it's fine ) but the same problem
    i suspect the Toner supplying motor of M but the toner bottle is rotating like normal

    any idea what might the problem be ?
    all help is highly appreciated
  • copier tech
    Field Supervisor
    5,000+ Posts
    • Jan 2014
    • 7788

    #2
    Re: Loading Toner RICOH MP C305 !!!

    Originally posted by Maged_elagamy
    a RICOH MP C305 giving loading toner msg and there is no magenta color on printed paper

    well at first i supposed it's an easy task
    here what i did
    i checked the M toner cartridge and it's fine
    PCU is ok as well
    i thought it must be toner supply spiral in the hopper
    but after i reached it after some efforts i found it's not supplying toner for some reasons
    i cleaned it well and gave it a try but the problem is the same
    so i replaced the M hopper to just to be sure but the same problem is present
    finally i replaced the PCU ( and i'm sure it's fine ) but the same problem
    i suspect the Toner supplying motor of M but the toner bottle is rotating like normal

    any idea what might the problem be ?
    all help is highly appreciated
    After you replaced the magenta PCDU did the machine initially work ok?

    What firmware version is the machine on?
    Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

    For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

    www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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    • Maged_elagamy
      Technician
      • Mar 2021
      • 34

      #3
      Re: Loading Toner RICOH MP C305 !!!

      Originally posted by copier tech
      After you replaced the magenta PCDU did the machine initially work ok?

      What firmware version is the machine on?
      after replacing PCDU it worked fine as the new unit had sufficient toner
      but still no toner is supplied in the unit

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      • slimslob
        Retired
        Site Contributor
        25,000+ Posts
        • May 2013
        • 34771

        #4
        Re: Loading Toner RICOH MP C305 !!!

        Originally posted by Maged_elagamy
        a RICOH MP C305 giving loading toner msg and there is no magenta color on printed paper

        well at first i supposed it's an easy task
        here what i did
        i checked the M toner cartridge and it's fine
        PCU is ok as well
        i thought it must be toner supply spiral in the hopper
        but after i reached it after some efforts i found it's not supplying toner for some reasons
        i cleaned it well and gave it a try but the problem is the same
        so i replaced the M hopper to just to be sure but the same problem is present
        finally i replaced the PCU ( and i'm sure it's fine ) but the same problem
        i suspect the Toner supplying motor of M but the toner bottle is rotating like normal

        any idea what might the problem be ?
        all help is highly appreciated
        Sounds like the magenta development unit is not rotating. All three color development units are driven by the same motor and clutch. That leaves the gear train for the magenta development unit. Have fun.

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        • anothertech
          Service Manager
          Site Contributor
          1,000+ Posts
          • Nov 2007
          • 1698

          #5
          Re: Loading Toner RICOH MP C305 !!!

          Have you tried a new bottle of toner?

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          • Maged_elagamy
            Technician
            • Mar 2021
            • 34

            #6
            Re: Loading Toner RICOH MP C305 !!!

            Originally posted by slimslob
            Sounds like the magenta development unit is not rotating. All three color development units are driven by the same motor and clutch. That leaves the gear train for the magenta development unit. Have fun.
            i've tried new unit and it didn't solve the problem

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            • Maged_elagamy
              Technician
              • Mar 2021
              • 34

              #7
              Re: Loading Toner RICOH MP C305 !!!

              Originally posted by anothertech
              Have you tried a new bottle of toner?
              i didn't try new one but i checked the bottle and i'm 100% sure it's working fine
              even i've tried supplying toner manually

              my question is , if the motor rotating the bottle gives movement to the the hopper gear and spiral
              and the bottle is rotating as normal
              so why not the stupid spiral do it's function and supply toner !

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              • slimslob
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                • May 2013
                • 34771

                #8
                Re: Loading Toner RICOH MP C305 !!!

                Originally posted by Maged_elagamy
                i didn't try new one but i checked the bottle and i'm 100% sure it's working fine
                even i've tried supplying toner manually

                my question is , if the motor rotating the bottle gives movement to the the hopper gear and spiral
                and the bottle is rotating as normal
                so why not the stupid spiral do it's function and supply toner !
                If the shutter in the toner bottle is clogged or otherwise not working properly then toner will not be able to get out of the bottle. Ergo anothertech's question as to if you have changed the bottle.

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                • slimslob
                  Retired
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                  • May 2013
                  • 34771

                  #9
                  Re: Loading Toner RICOH MP C305 !!!

                  Originally posted by Maged_elagamy
                  i've tried new unit and it didn't solve the problem
                  Do you mean that you ordered and replaced the DRIVE UNITRUMEVELOPMENT:TRANS?

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                  • copier tech
                    Field Supervisor
                    5,000+ Posts
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 7788

                    #10
                    Re: Loading Toner RICOH MP C305 !!!

                    Originally posted by Maged_elagamy
                    after replacing PCDU it worked fine as the new unit had sufficient toner
                    but still no toner is supplied in the unit

                    And what about my 2nd question re firmware version?

                    This bulletin is old but maybe the cause of your issue.

                    Toner replacement alert does not clear.pdf
                    Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                    For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                    www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                    • Maged_elagamy
                      Technician
                      • Mar 2021
                      • 34

                      #11
                      Re: Loading Toner RICOH MP C305 !!!

                      Originally posted by copier tech
                      And what about my 2nd question re firmware version?

                      This bulletin is old but maybe the cause of your issue.

                      [ATTACH]50810[/ATTACH]
                      I don't know the version
                      i can check later
                      but i'm pretty sure it's a mechanical issue

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                      • Maged_elagamy
                        Technician
                        • Mar 2021
                        • 34

                        #12
                        Re: Loading Toner RICOH MP C305 !!!

                        Originally posted by slimslob
                        If the shutter in the toner bottle is clogged or otherwise not working properly then toner will not be able to get out of the bottle. Ergo anothertech's question as to if you have changed the bottle.
                        i checked it and it's not clogged and working fine
                        the tricky thing is the bottle supplying toner to the hopper but the spiral is not supplying to the PCDU
                        so i replaced the hopper with 100% functioning spiral but still the same problem

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                        • Maged_elagamy
                          Technician
                          • Mar 2021
                          • 34

                          #13
                          Re: Loading Toner RICOH MP C305 !!!

                          Originally posted by slimslob
                          Do you mean that you ordered and replaced the DRIVE UNITRUMEVELOPMENT:TRANS?
                          of course not
                          i tried another PCDU form another machine that's working fine

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                          • slimslob
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                            • May 2013
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                            #14
                            Re: Loading Toner RICOH MP C305 !!!

                            Originally posted by Maged_elagamy
                            of course not
                            i tried another PCDU form another machine that's working fine
                            If you did not replace the drive unit and the problem is a broken gear in that drive unit, the developer coils in the PCDU will not be turning. If they are not turning, the toner cannot get out of the hopper coil assembly.

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                            • ngocduc
                              Junior Member
                              • Feb 2023
                              • 9

                              #15
                              Re: Loading Toner RICOH MP C305 !!!

                              Originally posted by slimslob
                              If you did not replace the drive unit and the problem is a broken gear in that drive unit, the developer coils in the PCDU will not be turning. If they are not turning, the toner cannot get out of the hopper coil assembly.
                              how to know the pcdu is not work any more , please .
                              how to test it ? and i want buy the PCDU, where sale it please
                              thanks so much

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