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  • Phil B.
    Field Supervisor

    10,000+ Posts
    • Jul 2016
    • 22798

    #16
    Re: Ricoh mp 7502 overtoning - light image

    Originally posted by doro
    are there any settings in sp mode that i can do??

    in another mp 7500 with long runs and 70000+ pages per month there is no problem like that.
    BUT how many total pages on the 2nd unit...
    Media?
    Coverage?

    Same location?
    Better environment?

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    • slimslob
      Retired

      Site Contributor
      25,000+ Posts
      • May 2013
      • 37169

      #17
      Re: Ricoh mp 7502 overtoning - light image

      Originally posted by doro
      are there any settings in sp mode that i can do??

      in another mp 7500 with long runs and 70000+ pages per month there is no problem like that.
      MP 7500 is an older model from when they did not have to be RoHS, Reduction of Hazardous Substance, compliant. Machine 75ppm machines back then were intended for the an average of 50k and since it was the fastest in the model could handle a maximum of 150k. With the 02s they introduced the MP 9002 90ppm model. The 9002 added a production type developer pressure release system. You could refer to the parts catalog and order the parts needed to add the pressure release system which should relieve the toner gassing out from the development unit.

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      • KeviM
        Trusted Tech

        250+ Posts
        • Oct 2019
        • 324

        #18
        Re: Ricoh mp 7502 overtoning - light image

        Hi

        I agree with Slimslob. He seems to be on the right track. Even the advice that the other techs gave is good. Please try that first.

        If you still believe that those suggestions are not going to work then maybe you can try these. You are towards the "SHOT IN THE DARK" area of repairs NOW. You'll have to try and see if these work.

        1) power packs (high voltage boards) change all and test. Make sure to set correct voltages as they may have been changed by processing
        2) BCU board. This board and the power parks have a possibility of getting damaged due to power surges, lightning strikes,.. Etc.
        3) Have you tried stopping the machine mid-cycle? Then checking your drums image? This might give a better idea of what is going on

        Hope this helps friend. Please try the other suggestions first.

        Please let us know how it goes.

        All the best friend

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        • luca72
          Field Supervisor

          1,000+ Posts
          • Oct 2017
          • 1724

          #19
          Re: Ricoh mp 7502 overtoning - light image

          Originally posted by doro
          Hello to everyone!
          I bought and sell a used RICOH MP 7502 last month ( counter 890.000 copies) .
          I changed all PM (drum,developer, tranfer belt,brush, grid ,blades seals etc..) all OEM.
          I did initialization settings as always 2-801, 2-962 .The print quality after a few thousand prints ( 5000 - 7000 pages !!)
          has become light and in Drum stay entrance there is too much toner.
          I changed developer again and the problem continues...
          Auto Process Control is ON ( SC History was once SC380-41)
          Dev.bias: 515 V
          Toner supply mode:2-208 is 0 (sensor control) is default
          Toner supply rate: 2-209 is default
          Vref nanual setting: 1.02 (default is 2.5)
          Vt display: 0.6

          any ideas???please help!!
          Thanks!
          changing all that stuff, I take it for granted that you also cleaned everything (?) ... so I would suggest you after running the bulletin procedures, to turn on the heaters, which help a lot, even the ozone filter, if too old it plays tricks strange, especially if the mc works in tight spaces. same problem happened to me with 2 packs of old or bad developer, I never understood this exactly, but it was there for a long time
          "loneliness is an invention of the white man, when we are alone we talk to everything around us, we are never alone" (Ojibwa)

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          • doro
            Technician
            • Dec 2021
            • 14

            #20
            Re: Ricoh mp 7502 overtoning - light image

            hello guys,
            i think that i found the problem.
            the problem propably is the toner supply clutch in the development motor assy.
            I checked today output table 5-804-52 (Toner Supply CL) and no ''click'' responce in on/off ...
            the clutch stays on and no off.

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            • anothertech
              Service Manager

              Site Contributor
              1,000+ Posts
              • Nov 2007
              • 1758

              #21
              Re: Ricoh mp 7502 overtoning - light image

              Originally posted by doro
              hello guys,
              i think that i found the problem.
              the problem propably is the toner supply clutch in the development motor assy.
              I checked today output table 5-804-52 (Toner Supply CL) and no ''click'' responce in on/off ...
              the clutch stays on and no off.
              It could be the board that controls the clutch. Can you get on the wires with your meter?

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              • tsbservice
                Field tech

                Site Contributor
                5,000+ Posts
                • May 2007
                • 7950

                #22
                Re: Ricoh mp 7502 overtoning - light image

                Originally posted by doro
                hello guys,
                i think that i found the problem.
                the problem propably is the toner supply clutch in the development motor assy.
                I checked today output table 5-804-52 (Toner Supply CL) and no ''click'' responce in on/off ...
                the clutch stays on and no off.
                Remove any remainings of sticky foam(noise dampening pads) from there they tend to melt down mixed with dirt and toner. Just scrub them and clean with IPA then use 2-3 plies of isolation band for example.
                A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
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                • apump
                  Trusted Tech

                  100+ Posts
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 160

                  #23
                  Re: Ricoh mp 7502 overtoning - light image

                  Originally posted by slimslob
                  Maybe if apump had referenced the bulletin you posted his recommendation may have made sense.
                  just because it wants to refrence serial number doesnot mean a dev unit can go bad. really!!

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                  • slimslob
                    Retired

                    Site Contributor
                    25,000+ Posts
                    • May 2013
                    • 37169

                    #24
                    Re: Ricoh mp 7502 overtoning - light image

                    Originally posted by apump
                    just because it wants to refrence serial number doesnot mean a dev unit can go bad. really!!
                    From the Aficio 551 on I have had exactly 1 development unit go bad. And that actually was not the DVU but was the clutch doro mentioned. Pumped a toner bottle dry in less that 24 hrs. And that was an Aficio 551 with over 1 million copies on it. Some people like to replace them when they start pumping developer out the rear bearings but those are replaceable as is everything else on those tanks.

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                    • BLADE
                      former propeller tester

                      250+ Posts
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 478

                      #25
                      Re: Ricoh mp 7502 overtoning - light image

                      it might be a dud, ( 01s there were some duds lol)
                      Last edited by BLADE; 12-29-2021, 03:21 AM. Reason: false memory syndrome

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