used machines

[Gab]

I am planning to import some A4 used color copiers. Any advice to what model to select?

[luca72]

I am planning to import some A4 used color copiers. Any advice to what model to select?

used? or reconditioned?...just used, they are never a good deal

[Mako]

used? or reconditioned?...just used, they are never a good deal

You're kidding? We buy and sell used Ricoh equipment all the time. Probably 30-40% of the equipment we sell is pre-owned. We get it so cheap that we can fully recondition and retail it for nearly half the cost of new. All low meters. We resell nothing older than one generation back and a lot of machines are current models. I'm delivering a pre-owned Ricoh W6700 today. I quoted the customer $15,549 for brand new and $8,500.00 for a like new, low meter pre-owned. Customer went with the pre-owned. Its a win for the customer and its a win for me. I offer them the same service plan cost on the pre-owned as new. Ricoh's pricing for new equipment is so high that its often hard to get a decent markup on new unless the dealer is playing games with government and medical GPOs. Smart dealer can do very well selling used Ricoh.

[luca72]

You're kidding? We buy and sell used Ricoh equipment all the time. Probably 30-40% of the equipment we sell is pre-owned. We get it so cheap that we can fully recondition and retail it for nearly half the cost of new. All low meters. We resell nothing older than one generation back and a lot of machines are current models. I'm delivering a pre-owned Ricoh W6700 today. I quoted the customer $15,549 for brand new and $8,500.00 for a like new, low meter pre-owned. Customer went with the pre-owned. Its a win for the customer and its a win for me. I offer them the same service plan cost on the pre-owned as new. Ricoh's pricing for new equipment is so high that its often hard to get a decent markup on new unless the dealer is playing games with government and medical GPOs. Smart dealer can do very well selling used Ricoh.

if they are used but reconditioned it is ok, but if you have to buy, for example a used 3004, with the risk of having to redo all the consumables, soon after, plus some adjustments here and there, between trips, time and gasoline, a reconditioned one is better, there is also a decent guarantee from the supplier for all parts

[slimslob]

You're kidding? We buy and sell used Ricoh equipment all the time. Probably 30-40% of the equipment we sell is pre-owned. We get it so cheap that we can fully recondition and retail it for nearly half the cost of new. All low meters. We resell nothing older than one generation back and a lot of machines are current models. I'm delivering a pre-owned Ricoh W6700 today. I quoted the customer $15,549 for brand new and $8,500.00 for a like new, low meter pre-owned. Customer went with the pre-owned. Its a win for the customer and its a win for me. I offer them the same service plan cost on the pre-owned as new. Ricoh's pricing for new equipment is so high that its often hard to get a decent markup on new unless the dealer is playing games with government and medical GPOs. Smart dealer can do very well selling used Ricoh.

With the company I worked for many of our new equipment sales/leases were to schools and Ricoh corporate customers. Schools would replace every 3 to 5 years. We had a reputation for quality service and support so very seldom lost a trade up. Trade ins would either be wholesaled or refurbished and sold to small businesses. Service income was a big part of our revenue.

[Mako]

if they are used but reconditioned it is ok, but if you have to buy, for example a used 3004, with the risk of having to redo all the consumables, soon after, plus some adjustments here and there, between trips, time and gasoline, a reconditioned one is better, there is also a decent guarantee from the supplier for all parts

We don't want them reconditioned when we buy them. We want to recondition them ourselves. We'd rather know it was done right.

[luca72]

We don't want them reconditioned when we buy them. We want to recondition them ourselves. We'd rather know it was done right.

well, this definitely gives better quality control