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  • Vintage tech
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    50+ Posts
    • Nov 2017
    • 50

    #1

    locked out mpc5504 ex

    Hi out there,
    I hope the collective wisdom can help with this one, its something I have been trying to solve for a while but so far I've hit a brick wall.

    Ok, MPC5504ex - came back from hire with most of the icons removed - no toner display etc, I presume some handy IT guy decided to clean up the display to stop the office geeks playing with it.

    Did what I normally do, started to install the package firmware, but on re boot it said "reboot after card insert . E32" then underneath it says "CheetahApli Card No:1/1"

    so now,
    cant get into service mode
    machine will not go past this message
    machine will not re load the package - in just hangs on the "preparing for firmware update" message
    Have loaded cheetah software via the screen, but it will not load any other screen software like the toner app or anything.

    so - is the "CheetahApli" firmware - I cant see it as a firmware option
    can I "force" the machine to load the package ?

    Any Ideas

    Kind Regards

    Steve
  • luca72
    Field Supervisor

    1,000+ Posts
    • Oct 2017
    • 1677

    #2
    Re: locked out mpc5504 ex

    Originally posted by Vintage tech
    Hi out there,
    I hope the collective wisdom can help with this one, its something I have been trying to solve for a while but so far I've hit a brick wall.

    Ok, MPC5504ex - came back from hire with most of the icons removed - no toner display etc, I presume some handy IT guy decided to clean up the display to stop the office geeks playing with it.

    Did what I normally do, started to install the package firmware, but on re boot it said "reboot after card insert . E32" then underneath it says "CheetahApli Card No:1/1"

    so now,
    cant get into service mode
    machine will not go past this message
    machine will not re load the package - in just hangs on the "preparing for firmware update" message
    Have loaded cheetah software via the screen, but it will not load any other screen software like the toner app or anything.

    so - is the "CheetahApli" firmware - I cant see it as a firmware option
    can I "force" the machine to load the package ?

    Any Ideas

    Kind Regards

    Steve
    to reload the panel firmware, did you do the correct procedure? does "user tools" not appear to go to the restore panel menu? maybe someone has loaded the firmware version "not ex", or with a standard keyboard?
    "loneliness is an invention of the white man, when we are alone we talk to everything around us, we are never alone" (Ojibwa)

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    • slimslob
      Retired

      Site Contributor
      25,000+ Posts
      • May 2013
      • 36807

      #3
      Re: locked out mpc5504 ex

      cant get into service mode
      Administrator may have turned off service access in User Tools.

      machine will not go past this message
      machine will not re load the package - in just hangs on the "preparing for firmware update" message
      Machine may not have been shutdown properly. That can cause massive corruption in firmware modules. If you can access with WIM, look for any error messages. You may need to do remote firmware update through WIM.

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      • tonerhead
        Senior Tech

        500+ Posts
        • Sep 2009
        • 582

        #4
        Re: locked out mpc5504 ex

        Package firmware, you can't trust it as far as you can chuck it. I would load the individual romdata files and try loading that way. Hopefully it should come back to life.
        I've proved mathematics wrong. 1 + 1 doesn't always equal 2.........


        Especially when it comes to sex

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        • mikadonovan
          Senior Tech

          Site Contributor
          2,500+ Posts
          • May 2008
          • 2931

          #5
          Re: locked out mpc5504 ex

          If you were installing using an sd card, maybe it will recover using the firmware update tool. I would try it.
          NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING

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          • copier tech
            Field Supervisor

            5,000+ Posts
            • Jan 2014
            • 8101

            #6
            Re: locked out mpc5504 ex

            Originally posted by Vintage tech
            Hi out there,
            I hope the collective wisdom can help with this one, its something I have been trying to solve for a while but so far I've hit a brick wall.

            Ok, MPC5504ex - came back from hire with most of the icons removed - no toner display etc, I presume some handy IT guy decided to clean up the display to stop the office geeks playing with it.

            Did what I normally do, started to install the package firmware, but on re boot it said "reboot after card insert . E32" then underneath it says "CheetahApli Card No:1/1"

            so now,
            cant get into service mode
            machine will not go past this message
            machine will not re load the package - in just hangs on the "preparing for firmware update" message
            Have loaded cheetah software via the screen, but it will not load any other screen software like the toner app or anything.

            so - is the "CheetahApli" firmware - I cant see it as a firmware option
            can I "force" the machine to load the package ?

            Any Ideas

            Kind Regards

            Steve
            Load BOTH the package & modular firmware files in the romdata firmware & try that.

            You don't need to update the cheetah firmware individually as it is included in the .pkg file.


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            For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

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            • Vintage tech
              Technician

              50+ Posts
              • Nov 2017
              • 50

              #7
              Re: locked out mpc5504 ex

              Hi,
              Thanks for the replies.

              I have tried literally everything, cannot access the web browser, cannot get into service mode as it throws the E32 error before it boots properly. No copier - no document server - no nothing, so I cannot get a key pad display up to even begin to get into service mode. It wont load any firmware - just hangs on the "preparing for firmware update" screen all day if you leave it. Its bleeps if you open a door but thats it - no door open display - nothing. Its proper bricked out.

              I'm pretty sure it thinks its a toaster or something.....
              I need a proper "black arts" hack on this one....

              Kind regards, and thanks again - I'm sure we will get there...

              Kind regards

              Steve

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              • Debs1964
                Service Manager

                1,000+ Posts
                • Oct 2010
                • 1687

                #8
                Re: locked out mpc5504 ex

                Put system/copy firmware only in the romdata folder, delete everything else on the card, put the card in the device and power on, when E32 appears leave it at least 5 minutes, then key in reset 143 CCC, then reboot with the SD card still in the device, it should update system/copy and come ready
                There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary maths and those who don't

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                • Vintage tech
                  Technician

                  50+ Posts
                  • Nov 2017
                  • 50

                  #9
                  Re: locked out mpc5504 ex

                  Thanks Debs,
                  I will give that a go.....I will let you know what happens!!

                  Regards

                  Steve

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                  • mikadonovan
                    Senior Tech

                    Site Contributor
                    2,500+ Posts
                    • May 2008
                    • 2931

                    #10
                    Re: locked out mpc5504 ex

                    I was just reading this thread where someone had installed NOP firmware onto a SOP and was experiencing similar issues. Maybe that happened.

                    MP C4503 Firmware Issues
                    NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING

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                    • Debs1964
                      Service Manager

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 1687

                      #11
                      Re: locked out mpc5504 ex

                      Originally posted by mikadonovan
                      I was just reading this thread where someone had installed NOP firmware onto a SOP and was experiencing similar issues. Maybe that happened.

                      MP C4503 Firmware Issues
                      The 04 series only has the SOP
                      There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary maths and those who don't

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                      • Vintage tech
                        Technician

                        50+ Posts
                        • Nov 2017
                        • 50

                        #12
                        Re: locked out mpc5504 ex

                        Thanks Debs,
                        That worked - just need to get the rest loaded up again and we should be rockin again!!

                        You are truly a master of the black arts!!!

                        Thanks again,

                        Regards
                        Steve

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                        • Debs1964
                          Service Manager

                          1,000+ Posts
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 1687

                          #13
                          Re: locked out mpc5504 ex

                          Originally posted by Vintage tech
                          Thanks Debs,
                          That worked - just need to get the rest loaded up again and we should be rockin again!!

                          You are truly a master of the black arts!!!

                          Thanks again,

                          Regards
                          Steve
                          I'm glad I could be of help
                          There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary maths and those who don't

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                          • Vintage tech
                            Technician

                            50+ Posts
                            • Nov 2017
                            • 50

                            #14
                            Re: locked out mpc5504 ex

                            Ok,
                            so final update on this.

                            Debs kindly supplied the way back into the machine (system Firmware ONLY C143CCC). Once this was on the machine would still not load package firmware, but luckily I have all the individual fimware in a folder. I loaded this on thru the "Romdata" file path, rebooted the machine but was still missing most of the icons on the screen.

                            Back to the "Package" software and it loaded the missing bits ok (after the usual legacy software has stopped responding faff about) and we are all up and running.

                            I still have no clue why it fell over, but if it happens again Im ready for it, firmware locked and loaded!!!

                            Thanks again to all who participated in this thread, especially to Debs.....

                            Kind Regards

                            Steve

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                            • emiliorsg
                              Trusted Tech

                              100+ Posts
                              • Jul 2018
                              • 141

                              #15
                              Re: locked out mpc5504 ex

                              Originally posted by Debs1964
                              Put system/copy firmware only in the romdata folder, delete everything else on the card, put the card in the device and power on, when E32 appears leave it at least 5 minutes, then key in reset 143 CCC, then reboot with the SD card still in the device, it should update system/copy and come ready
                              Hello friends, sorry to revive this post. Yesterday, updating an MPC2004 with the firmware package, the same thing happened to me. Just thank Debs1964 for his contribution, with which I solved the problem. Thanks.

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