MPC3500/4500 Power on jam

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  • Dusty
    Technician
    • Apr 2008
    • 17

    #1

    MPC3500/4500 Power on jam

    I sure hope someone else has seen this.

    I have a few of these machines showing a large quantity of jams, code 1. 'Jam at power on'. Goose's Guide says check the doors, but all my door and cover switches check out fine. Tech support is clueless, and insists on reading me Goose's Guide.

    I finally caught one in the act. It seems to only do this when outputting to the internal tray. (These all have a finisher, and a b227 bridge unit.) When I output everything to the finisher, it stops the 1 jam.

    Could this be because when the solenoid for the gate is firing it is spazzing out the signal from the cover switch? I have maybe twenty of these combos, and three or four have large numbers of this jam. I'll see one of them Monday, and any input would be appreciated.
  • TonerMunkeh
    Professional Moron

    2,500+ Posts
    • Apr 2008
    • 3865

    #2
    Replace the bridge unit door switches. The Appolon and Athena have been a bitch for this.
    It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

    Hit it.

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    • Cipher
      It's not easy being green

      1,000+ Posts
      • May 2006
      • 1309

      #3
      AW50 0023 x2
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      Fully qualified technician for Ricoh - Canon - Sharp - HP - Brother

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      • Agent777
        Junior Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 6

        #4
        Originally posted by Dusty
        I sure hope someone else has seen this.

        I have a few of these machines showing a large quantity of jams, code 1. 'Jam at power on'.
        I had a lot of these doing the same thing a few months ago. It's the two cover switches in the bridge unit. I went to the hardware, got some stick on felt pads to use as spacers, put them on the actuators (they looks like a + sign) and haven't had a problem since.

        This will also cause print jobs to become "locked up" where the customer must open and close a door to get the jobs to print.

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        • bier trinker
          Technician
          • Apr 2009
          • 12

          #5
          +1 on the switchs, they are now updated, by that i mean longer. i guess heat would cause the doors to move and the switch would activate.

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          • pspahr
            Toner Schlep

            100+ Posts
            • May 2008
            • 227

            #6
            I've seen this occur and was caused by the switches not being actuated. But the cause was that the exit sensor, the one that folds in when you install the bridge unit, was keeping the door from closing completely. Removing the sensor arm resolved the issue on 3 machines now.

            That said, I'll revisit them to check the operation of those switches, too!!
            VectorLinux---Check it out!

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