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  • KeviM
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    #1

    Proc 5100 or Proc 6502 or 751

    Hi guys

    Got a friend who's considering the purchase between a Proc 5100 or Proc 6502 or 751.

    He asked me about it but since I specialise in black and white machines I told him I'll find out from you guys the pros and cons on these machines.

    If anyone who's familiar with these can advise I'd appreciate it
  • slimslob
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    Re: Proc 5100 or Proc 6502 or 751

    In the current market situation, availability of Genuine Ricoh toner could be a major deciding factor. No point in having a Production Color machine that you can't use because it is out of toner.

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    • KeviM
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      #3
      Re: Proc 5100 or Proc 6502 or 751

      Thanks Slimslob.

      What about reliability and running costs? Can you tell me anything about that

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      • Zaxxon
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        #4
        Please start you post with brand, model, problem.

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        • GIUBOSS
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          Re: Proc 5100 or Proc 6502 or 751

          Originally posted by KeviM
          Hi guys

          Got a friend who's considering the purchase between a Proc 5100 or Proc 6502 or 751.

          He asked me about it but since I specialise in black and white machines I told him I'll find out from you guys the pros and cons on these machines.

          If anyone who's familiar with these can advise I'd appreciate it
          Proc 6502 (?)...

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          • anothertech
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            #6
            Re: Proc 5100 or Proc 6502 or 751

            Look at the condition of the 5100 vs the 6502, take the better one. I'd stay away from the 751.

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            • UNICORNico
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              Re: Proc 5100 or Proc 6502 or 751

              Originally posted by slimslob
              In the current market situation, availability of Genuine Ricoh toner could be a major deciding factor. No point in having a Production Color machine that you can't use because it is out of toner.
              Sorry for the off-topic question, since when is there a shortage of toner?
              We do not know that data in our area. Has anything happened?
              "ALL WILL BE WELL" The battle cry that most inspires me to follow, from the DC's Comic character that I admire the most. And I feel satisfied with being better every day, and with using Gnu-Linux as my usual Operating System.Apologies for my English, it's not my mother tongue and I'm helping the translator.

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              • slimslob
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                Re: Proc 5100 or Proc 6502 or 751

                Originally posted by GIUBOSS
                Proc 6502 (?)...
                I think he means the MP C6502, the production version of which is the Pro C5100. Nice color units but if not placed properly and set properly, they will eat you alive on toner and waste toner bottles. Low pages per job average can result in excessive Process Control being ran to maintain print quality if ProCon sand DEMS left at factory settings. Basically in factory settings the machine must use a certain amount of toner in each development unit to maintain proper quality. If it is not used making prints,auto controls will then use it printing adjustment patches.

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                • KeviM
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                  #9
                  Re: Proc 5100 or Proc 6502 or 751

                  Originally posted by slimslob
                  I think he means the MP C6502, the production version of which is the Pro C5100. Nice color units but if not placed properly and set properly, they will eat you alive on toner and waste toner bottles. Low pages per job average can result in excessive Process Control being ran to maintain print quality if ProCon sand DEMS left at factory settings. Basically in factory settings the machine must use a certain amount of toner in each development unit to maintain proper quality. If it is not used making prints,auto controls will then use it printing adjustment patches.
                  Yep. You right Slimslob.

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                  • KeviM
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                    #10
                    Re: Proc 5100 or Proc 6502 or 751

                    Originally posted by anothertech
                    Look at the condition of the 5100 vs the 6502, take the better one. I'd stay away from the 751.
                    Thanks anothertech

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                    • bojans
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                      #11
                      Re: Proc 5100 or Proc 6502 or 751

                      Originally posted by slimslob
                      I think he means the MP C6502, the production version of which is the Pro C5100. Nice color units but if not placed properly and set properly, they will eat you alive on toner and waste toner bottles. Low pages per job average can result in excessive Process Control being ran to maintain print quality if ProCon sand DEMS left at factory settings. Basically in factory settings the machine must use a certain amount of toner in each development unit to maintain proper quality. If it is not used making prints,auto controls will then use it printing adjustment patches.
                      Hi slimslob,

                      Could you explain what should be set to make machine use less toners.
                      Thx

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                      • slimslob
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                        Re: Proc 5100 or Proc 6502 or 751

                        Originally posted by bojans
                        Hi slimslob,

                        Could you explain what should be set to make machine use less toners.
                        Thx
                        As I am retired, I no longer have access the document that I created with all the steps in it. The laptop that had it died about 3 laptops back and I no longer have access to the company email where I had it saved.

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                        • bojans
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                          Re: Proc 5100 or Proc 6502 or 751

                          Originally posted by slimslob
                          As I am retired, I no longer have access the document that I created with all the steps in it. The laptop that had it died about 3 laptops back and I no longer have access to the company email where I had it saved.
                          Ok, no problem.
                          Thanks anyway.
                          Hope someone else will help.
                          I have one in my office for one month. It was full of toner, we use it for printing couple of Invoices every day, and it has eaten 50% of toners so far

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                          • satins
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                            #14
                            Re: Proc 5100 or Proc 6502 or 751

                            Originally posted by KeviM
                            Hi guys

                            Got a friend who's considering the purchase between a Proc 5100 or Proc 6502 or 751.

                            He asked me about it but since I specialise in black and white machines I told him I'll find out from you guys the pros and cons on these machines.

                            If anyone who's familiar with these can advise I'd appreciate it
                            What kind of jobs does he plans to do on the equipment.
                            This question can only be anwered rightly if his service portfolio can be shared.
                            Thanks

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                            • csliao
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                              #15
                              Re: Proc 5100 or Proc 6502 or 751

                              Originally posted by KeviM
                              Hi guys

                              Got a friend who's considering the purchase between a Proc 5100 or Proc 6502 or 751.

                              He asked me about it but since I specialise in black and white machines I told him I'll find out from you guys the pros and cons on these machines.

                              If anyone who's familiar with these can advise I'd appreciate it
                              you can choose
                              pro 6502 or pro c5300

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