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  • Lagonda
    Service Manager

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    • Aug 2008
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    #61
    Re: Are you using the right screwdriver?

    Originally posted by allan
    Yes 39 lashes!
    Only 39? That's being very lenient
    At least 50% of IT is a solution looking for a problem.

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    • allan
      RTFM!!

      5,000+ Posts
      • Apr 2010
      • 5459

      #62
      Re: Are you using the right screwdriver?

      Originally posted by Lagonda
      Only 39? That's being very lenient
      Jip only 39. In Roman times 39 was the absolute maximum lashes. Depending if the sentence was death.
      They reckoned probably by trail and error that 40 lashes is enough to kill someone and if the 40th did not kill then they did not do it right...
      40 – 1 = 39 Lashes | lovepeacetruth
      Whatever

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      • andy227
        Trusted Tech

        100+ Posts
        • Jan 2013
        • 219

        #63
        Re: Are you using the right screwdriver?

        Do you experience the eliptical movement of a screw with your proposed e-screwdriver?
        Mark, no I don't. I replaced the long tip with a shorter 50mm tip which is easier to line up and no problem. Honestly, I have tried the bigger Bosch and B&D type ones that others have said stripped threads, but they are way higher torques, and bigger and bulkier, this one feels ideal for photocopier work, the bulb shaped top cups nicely into the palm of your hand. If you crossthread a screw, which can happen even on a manual screwdriver, you can feel it straight away and just back out. Its only 2 nm torque. Honestly, I have found it indespencible since I got it. Have you never had times when you are starring at the back cover of a machine and thinking "oh God, I've got to get all this stuff off ! " ? Thats when this little beauty comes in handy.

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        • Mark Bbb
          Service Manager

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          • Jun 2012
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          #64
          Re: Are you using the right screwdriver?

          Originally posted by allan
          Jip only 39. In Roman times 39 was the absolute maximum lashes. Depending if the sentence was death.
          They reckoned probably by trail and error that 40 lashes is enough to kill someone and if the 40th did not kill then they did not do it right...
          Did you know that crucifixion was not done on the cross we know so well (that is far to heavy to carry) but on a X shaped cross.
          Thus was the victim dying much slower!

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          • Mark Bbb
            Service Manager

            1,000+ Posts
            • Jun 2012
            • 1662

            #65
            Re: Are you using the right screwdriver?

            Originally posted by andy227
            Mark, no I don't. I replaced the long tip with a shorter 50mm tip which is easier to line up and no problem. Honestly, I have tried the bigger Bosch and B&D type ones that others have said stripped threads, but they are way higher torques, and bigger and bulkier, this one feels ideal for photocopier work, the bulb shaped top cups nicely into the palm of your hand. If you crossthread a screw, which can happen even on a manual screwdriver, you can feel it straight away and just back out. Its only 2 nm torque. Honestly, I have found it indespencible since I got it. Have you never had times when you are starring at the back cover of a machine and thinking "oh God, I've got to get all this stuff off ! " ? Thats when this little beauty comes in handy.
            @ Andy: is the bit magnetic?
            The cross is called "sint andreas"

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            • NeoMatrix
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              • Nov 2010
              • 3514

              #66
              Re: Are you using the right screwdriver?

              Originally posted by Mark Bbb
              I have tried an electrical screwdriver recently and the problem was to align the screw in the hole when tighting. Even at very low turning speed the movement of the screw was elliptical, so almost impossible to centrate it and causing damage.
              But for loosen a screw it is a real convenience!!! Need to say that this e-screwdriver i used was heavy and long, so difficult to centrate the screw. The one you propose seems to be short and lighter, so it might workout fine.
              Do you experience the eliptical movement of a screw with your proposed e-screwdriver?

              Re. Thread damage.

              All previously bedded screws(and nuts) whether fixing wood,plastic,metal or diamond are wound backwards until they drop into the hole.
              If if you want to cut another entirely different thread path into the same screw hole, then use any forced assisted torque driver to damage the previous thread.

              Best method to find the start of any thread is to wind the screw,nut or bolt backwards until you feel it drop into the hole. Only start to wind forward when the thread has dropped into the hole.

              Moral of the story...
              Always start a thread one or two turns "FIRST" before using any torque driver to fix firm. This includes nuts driven onto studs and bolts using rattle guns or impact drivers.
              Inauguration to the "AI cancel-culture" fraternity 1997...
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              • NeoMatrix
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                #67
                Re: Are you using the right screwdriver?

                Originally posted by allan
                Yes 39 lashes!

                There's a beer label called 50 Lashes... Nice beer not a bad drop....
                I've had one or two "Fifty Lashes" beers over the holiday break....

                Whip me beat me....
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                • ZOOTECH
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                  #68
                  Re: Are you using the right screwdriver?

                  Originally posted by NeoMatrix
                  There's a beer label called 50 Lashes... Nice beer not a bad drop....
                  I've had one or two "Fifty Lashes" beers over the holiday break....

                  Whip me beat me....
                  Come on - one or two? 'fess up! If I can find "Fifty Lashes", I'll give it a try.🍺
                  "You can't trust your eyes, if your mind is out of focus" --

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                  • allan
                    RTFM!!

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                    • Apr 2010
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                    #69
                    Re: Are you using the right screwdriver?

                    Nothing beats FAXE 10%. Tastes like beer but stronger...
                    Makes you strong after the first one.
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                    Drink like a Viking...
                    Drunk like a sailor.
                    Then ask yourself are you using the right screwdriver?
                    Whatever

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                    • andy227
                      Trusted Tech

                      100+ Posts
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 219

                      #70
                      Re: Are you using the right screwdriver?

                      @ Andy: is the bit magnetic?
                      Mark, yes, the original longer tip supplied with it is, the replacement shorter 50mm one I put on wasn't and I just magnetised it. On the link I posted, there is also a video clip but here is the direct link to the video. Personally, I wouldn't use it for driving woodscrews like the video, I don't think its got enough horse power, but found it ideal for the photocopier screws.

                      YouTube

                      When I got it a couple of months ago, I wanted a small and practical one to fit in a photocopier tech's toolbag, and to work well on the type of screws we drive. Personally, I ain't been dissapointed. This is a picture of it with the smaller tip, in the palm of my hand. Forgot to mention, the dark grey area of the handle is a soft rubberised grip material, feels nice in the hand.

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                      • thebillydangerous
                        Technician
                        • Aug 2017
                        • 13

                        #71
                        Re: Are you using the right screwdriver?

                        I was a huge fan of the Engineer nut driver from Japan, because the neodymium magnet in the head moves around to work for both shallow and deep headed 5.5 mil screws.

                        Amazon.com : Engineer Hex Catch Nut Driver (Magnetic) for Hex Screws Measuring 5.5mm Across Flats (Made in Japan) dnc-55 : Sockets : Sports & Outdoors

                        Then prices started going crazy, and I had to find an alternative that still had that feature.

                        Happily, Atrix, who has been making vacuums for our industry for a long time, recently introduced their own model.

                        Amazon.com: Atrix ATI55MXL Magnetic Nut Driver (5.5mm Hex - Long): Home Improvement

                        Great grip, and the moving magnet head I now require. Loving it.

                        ( I know it's an old thread, but new tool info is always relevant!)

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                        • philjessen
                          Technician
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 10

                          #72
                          Re: Are you using the right screwdriver?

                          Originally posted by category_five
                          That's fantastic! I had given up on finding the Hozan North American distributor. Thank you very much.
                          Image Supply Service in MN is also a Hozan distributor. 800-283-6447 Sorry for chiming in on such an old post. Just saw this today.

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                          • Oze
                            Ricoh Fanboy

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                            • Jul 2008
                            • 1663

                            #73
                            Re: Are you using the right screwdriver?

                            Originally posted by thebillydangerous
                            I was a huge fan of the Engineer nut driver from Japan, because the neodymium magnet in the head moves around to work for both shallow and deep headed 5.5 mil screws.

                            Amazon.com : Engineer Hex Catch Nut Driver (Magnetic) for Hex Screws Measuring 5.5mm Across Flats (Made in Japan) dnc-55 : Sockets : Sports & Outdoors

                            Then prices started going crazy, and I had to find an alternative that still had that feature.

                            Happily, Atrix, who has been making vacuums for our industry for a long time, recently introduced their own model.

                            Amazon.com: Atrix ATI55MXL Magnetic Nut Driver (5.5mm Hex - Long): Home Improvement

                            Great grip, and the moving magnet head I now require. Loving it.

                            ( I know it's an old thread, but new tool info is always relevant!)
                            KATUN also sell the Atrix brand 5.5 nut driver.
                            They have them in standard length and the longer length.

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                            • Mark Bbb
                              Service Manager

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                              • Jun 2012
                              • 1662

                              #74
                              Re: Are you using the right screwdriver?

                              Do you also use an electric screwdriver?
                              I use a light weight Bosch, cheap model, only to loosen because it is none magnetic.

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                              • Codex
                                Senior Tech

                                500+ Posts
                                • May 2008
                                • 694

                                #75
                                Re: Are you using the right screwdriver?

                                I use a German model... The Wiha 5.5mm magnetic...

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